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05/04/2022 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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Moved CSHB 183(FIN) Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
+ SB 20 OUT OF STATE TEACHER RECIPROCITY TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
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                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                        May 4, 2022                                                                                             
                         1:31 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:31:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick called the  House Finance Committee meeting                                                                    
to order at 1:31 p.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Neal Foster, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Kelly Merrick, Co-Chair                                                                                          
Representative Dan Ortiz, Vice-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Ben Carpenter                                                                                                    
Representative Bryce Edgmon                                                                                                     
Representative DeLena Johnson                                                                                                   
Representative Andy Josephson                                                                                                   
Representative Bart LeBon                                                                                                       
Representative Sara Rasmussen                                                                                                   
Representative Steve Thompson                                                                                                   
Representative Adam Wool                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Lizzie  Kubitz, Staff,  Representative  Matt Claman;  Brenda                                                                    
Stanfill,  Executive Director,  Alaska  Network on  Domestic                                                                    
Violence and  Sexual Assault; Nancy Meade,  General Counsel,                                                                    
Alaska  Court System;  Representative Matt  Claman, Sponsor;                                                                    
Tim  Lamkin, Staff,  Senator Gary  Stevens; Steve  Williams,                                                                    
Alaska Mental Health Trust  Authority, Juneau. Suzi Pearson,                                                                    
Executive Director, Abused Women's Aid in Crisis.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Susanne  DiPietro,   Executive  Director,   Alaska  Judicial                                                                    
Council;  Travis  Welch,   Program  Officer,  Alaska  Mental                                                                    
Health  Trust  Authority;  April  Wilkerson,  Administrative                                                                    
Services  Director,  Department  of Corrections,  Office  of                                                                    
Management  and  Budget,  Office   of  the  Governor;  Alysa                                                                    
Wooden, Division of Behavioral  Health, Department of Health                                                                    
and Social Services;  Sondra Meredith, Teacher Certification                                                                    
Administrator,   Department    of   Education    and   Early                                                                    
Development;  Peggy   Rankin,  Senior  Director   of  Talent                                                                    
Management,  Anchorage  School District,  Anchorage;  Tammie                                                                    
Perreault,   Northwest   Regional   Liaison,   Defense-State                                                                    
Liaison  Office,  operating  under the  direction  of  Under                                                                    
Secretary  of Defense  for  Personnel  and Readiness;  Bryan                                                                    
Hawkins,  City of  Homer and  Alaska  Association of  Harbor                                                                    
Masters  & Port  Administrator, Homer;  Bruce Friend,  Self,                                                                    
Homer;  Jon Erickson,  City Manager,  Yakutat; Bal  Dreyfus,                                                                    
Matson, Anchorage;  Bob Scanlon, CEO, Blood  Bank of Alaska,                                                                    
Anchorage; Mike Brown, Self,  Palmer; Douglas Olerud, Mayor,                                                                    
Haines; Edna  DeVries, Mayor,  Mat-Su Borough,  Palmer; Cara                                                                    
Durr,  Food  Bank  of  Alaska,  Anchorage;  John  Handeland,                                                                    
Mayor,  City  of  Nome, Nome;  Sarah  Kathryn  Bryan,  Self,                                                                    
Anchorage;  Dianne Holmes,  Self, Anchorage;  Jason Lessard,                                                                    
NAMI  Anchorage,   Anchorage;  Margaret   Henson,  Northwest                                                                    
Arctic  Borough School  District, Kotzebue;  Paul Ostrander,                                                                    
City   Manager,   Kenai;   Robin   Minard,   Mat-Su   Health                                                                    
Foundation, Wasilla; Kelly  Lessens, Anchorage School Board,                                                                    
Anchorage; Heidi Hill, Self,  Anchorage; Brenda Moore, Self,                                                                    
Anchorage;  David  Karp,  Saltchuk, Anchorage;  Eric  Wyatt,                                                                    
President, Alaska  Mariculture Alliance; Gale  Vandor, Self,                                                                    
Juneau;  Kurt  Buchholz,  Self, Soldotna;  Virgie  Thompson,                                                                    
Mayor,  City of  Houston,  Houston;  Bryan Haugsead,  AWAIC,                                                                    
Anchorage;  Clay Bezenek,  Self,  Ketchikan; Patrick  Mayer,                                                                    
Superintendent, Aleutian East  Borough School District, Sand                                                                    
Point; Chuck Homan, Self, Eagle  River; Joan O'Keefe, United                                                                    
Human   Services  of   Southeast  Alaska,   Juneau;  Brandon                                                                    
Calcaterra,  Self, Eagle  River;  Joy Baker,  City of  Nome,                                                                    
Nome;   Julie    Decker,   Alaska    Fisheries   Development                                                                    
Foundation, Executive  Director, Wrangell;  Susanne Marchuk,                                                                    
Executive Director, Alaska  Careline, Fairbanks; Laura Lann,                                                                    
Self,  Anchorage;   Jan  Carolyn  Hardy,   State  President,                                                                    
AFSCME,  Anchorage;  Heather  McCarty, Central  Bearing  Sea                                                                    
Fisherman   Association,   Juneau;  Dave   Bronson,   Mayor,                                                                    
Municipality of Anchorage,  Anchorage; Ross Risvold, Finance                                                                    
Officer,  City of  Anchorage; Tom  Chard, Alaska  Behavioral                                                                    
Health Association, Fairbanks;  Mariya Lovishchuk, The Glory                                                                    
Hall,  Juneau;   Bruce  Bustamante,  Anchorage   Chamber  of                                                                    
Commerce, Anchorage;  Jerry Jenkins, Self,  Anchorage; Moria                                                                    
Smith, Self,  Anchorage; Julia Luey, VOA  Alaska, Anchorage;                                                                    
Jessica  Leonard,  Self,   Houston;  Haley  Johnson,  Alaska                                                                    
Trails, Anchorage;  Dr. Gene Quinn, Alaska  Heart Institute,                                                                    
Alaska   Health  Information   Exchange,  Anchorage;   Donna                                                                    
Aderhold,  Homer   City  Council,  Homer;   Ed  Hendrickson,                                                                    
Anchorage  Chamber of  Commerce, Anchorage;  Pollybeth Odom,                                                                    
Self,   Mat-Su  Valley;   Carl  Weisner,   Northwest  Arctic                                                                    
Borough,  Kotzebue; Chris  Manculich,  Self, Mat-Su;  Carter                                                                    
Cole,  City  of  Houston Council  Member,  Houston;  Suzanne                                                                    
LaFrance,  Anchorage  Assembly,  Anchorage;  Katie  Bethard,                                                                    
Seawolf Hockey  Alliance, Anchorage; Georgiana  Page, Health                                                                    
Information  Exchange,  Anchorage;   Carlin  Evanoff,  Self,                                                                    
Anchorage;   Steve   Nerland,   Miracle   Legion   Baseball,                                                                    
Anchorage; Noria Clark, Self,  Anchorage; Tom Atkinson, City                                                                    
Manager, City of Kotzebue,  Kotzebue; June Rogers, Fairbanks                                                                    
City  Council,  Fairbanks;   Victoria  Kildal,  Kodiak  Area                                                                    
Native Association,  Kodiak; Joann Rieselbach,  Juneau Youth                                                                    
Services, Juneau;  Brent Fisher,  Self, Juneau;  Tim Potter,                                                                    
Anchorage Skates, Anchorage; Richard  Tuluk, City of Chevak,                                                                    
Chevak.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HB 183    CRIMINAL JUSTICE DATA ANALYSIS COMMISSION                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
          CSHB 183(FIN)  was REPORTED out of  committee with                                                                    
          four  "do  pass"  recommendations,  four  "do  not                                                                    
          pass"     recommendations,     and    four     "no                                                                    
          recommendation" recommendations  and with  one new                                                                    
          zero   fiscal   note   from  the   Department   of                                                                    
          Corrections;  one new  zero fiscal  note from  the                                                                    
          Department of  Health and Social Services  for the                                                                    
          Department  of  Health; one  previously  published                                                                    
          zero fiscal  note: FN1  (AJS); and  one previously                                                                    
         published fiscal impact note: FN3 (AJS).                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
HB 283    APPROP: CAP; REAPPROP; SUPP                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
          HB  283  was  HEARD  and  HELD  in  committee  for                                                                    
          further consideration.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CSSB 20(FIN)                                                                                                                    
          OUT OF STATE TEACHER RECIPROCITY                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
          CSSB 20(FIN)  was HEARD and HELD  in committee for                                                                    
          further consideration.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick reviewed the meeting agenda.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 183                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An   Act   renaming   the  Alaska   Criminal   Justice                                                                    
     Commission  the Alaska  Criminal Justice  Data Analysis                                                                    
     Commission; relating  to the  membership of  the Alaska                                                                    
     Criminal Justice Data  Analysis Commission; relating to                                                                    
     the powers  and duties  of the Alaska  Criminal Justice                                                                    
     Data  Analysis  Commission; extending  the  termination                                                                    
     date  of  the  Alaska Criminal  Justice  Data  Analysis                                                                    
     Commission;  relating to  the  duties  of the  Judicial                                                                    
     Council; providing  for an  effective date  by amending                                                                    
     the effective  date of  secs. 41 and  73, ch.  1, 4SSLA                                                                    
     2017; and providing for an  effective date by repealing                                                                    
    the effective date of sec. 74, ch. 1, 4SSLA 2017."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:32:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick relayed the bill  had previously been heard                                                                    
on  April  27,  2022.   The  committee  would  consider  two                                                                    
amendments. She  asked the bill  sponsor's staff if  she had                                                                    
any opening statements.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
LIZZIE   KUBITZ,   STAFF,    REPRESENTATIVE   MATT   CLAMAN,                                                                    
introduced  herself and  was happy  to answer  any questions                                                                    
and speak to the amendments.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick moved to invited testimony.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:33:30 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:33:51 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SUSANNE  DIPIETRO,   EXECUTIVE  DIRECTOR,   ALASKA  JUDICIAL                                                                    
COUNCIL  (via  teleconference),  shared  that  the  Judicial                                                                    
Council had served  as staff to the  Alaska Criminal Justice                                                                    
Commission. She  intended to speak about  staffing under the                                                                    
legislation. She  explained that the Judicial  Council would                                                                    
continue  to  staff  the new  entity,  the  Alaska  Criminal                                                                    
Justice Data  Analysis Commission.  She shared  that Article                                                                    
IV  of  the  state's   constitution  one  of  the  council's                                                                    
constitutional   duties   was   to   conduct   studies   for                                                                    
improvement of  the administration of justice.  She informed                                                                    
committee  members  that the  council  had  been engaged  in                                                                    
studies of  the criminal and  civil justice systems  for the                                                                    
past  50 years,  including studies  on criminal  recidivism,                                                                    
sex offences, felony  sentences, domestic violence treatment                                                                    
programs, therapeutic courts, and other topics.                                                                                 
Ms.  DiPietro noted  at  the previous  hearing  on the  bill                                                                    
there had been discussion about  the role the Alaska Justice                                                                    
Information  Center (AJIC)  would play  in the  work of  the                                                                    
data commission as  envisioned in HB 183.  She detailed that                                                                    
AJIC   also  did   discrete   research   projects  for   the                                                                    
commission. The  Judicial Council had found  in its research                                                                    
that  the   roles  of   the  council   and  AJIC   had  very                                                                    
complimentary  skill sets  that  were  not overlapping.  She                                                                    
reported that  the current structure was  working quite well                                                                    
from   her  perspective.   She  explained   that  the   data                                                                    
commission would have a critical  function of collecting and                                                                    
analyzing criminal  justice data supplied by  the Department                                                                    
of  Corrections (DOC),  Department of  Public Safety  (DPS),                                                                    
and the Court System.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  DiPietro  stated  that  while   each  of  the  agencies                                                                    
currently  had  their own  data  sources  they analyzed  for                                                                    
their own purposes,  the role of the commission  would be to                                                                    
collect data  from all of  the criminal justice  entities to                                                                    
form a  more complete  picture of  how the  criminal justice                                                                    
system  was  functioning.  She highlighted  that  it  was  a                                                                    
unique  ability that  had not  been previously  available to                                                                    
any entity.  She explained it  would be the  primary purpose                                                                    
of the  Criminal Justice  Data Commission  and would  be the                                                                    
value  added  to  have  a  view  of  the  big  picture.  She                                                                    
expounded that under the bill,  the data commission would be                                                                    
entitled  to  receive  quarterly   data  from  the  criminal                                                                    
justice  agencies. She  noted it  would  not be  statutorily                                                                    
possible without the authority in the legislation.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. DiPietro discussed what the  commission had been able to                                                                    
accomplish by weaving together data  from all of the various                                                                    
sources.   She  highlighted   the  commission's   report  on                                                                    
impaired  driving  offences from  2016  as  an example.  She                                                                    
believed  at the  previous meeting  the  committee had  been                                                                    
made aware of reports on  sex offences and domestic violence                                                                    
compiled by  the commission in  collaboration with  AJIC and                                                                    
the University of Alaska. She  stated that most importantly,                                                                    
the reports used data from the Court System, DPS, and DOC.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  DiPietro  highlighted  a  final  potential  benefit  of                                                                    
creating  a   data  analysis  commission:  the   ability  to                                                                    
document changes  over time in the  criminal justice system.                                                                    
She explained  it would include  documenting changes  in the                                                                    
laws  in addition  to variations  in patterns  of offending,                                                                    
incarceration,  charging, and  convictions. She  pointed out                                                                    
it was  something that  no agency  or entity  had previously                                                                    
been  in  the position  to  do.  The  creation of  the  data                                                                    
commission,  the legislature  could  ensure  that work  done                                                                    
over the last  five or six years was not  lost and was built                                                                    
upon going forward.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick thanked Ms. DiPietro for her testimony.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:39:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRENDA  STANFILL,  EXECUTIVE  DIRECTOR,  ALASKA  NETWORK  ON                                                                    
DOMESTIC  VIOLENCE   AND  SEXUAL   ASSAULT,  spoke   to  the                                                                    
importance  of creating  the  Alaska  Criminal Justice  Data                                                                    
Analysis Commission from a  victim advocate perspective. She                                                                    
shared she  had been  honored to  participate on  the Alaska                                                                    
Criminal  Justice  Commission  from  the  beginning  of  its                                                                    
formation through  two terms for  a total of six  years. She                                                                    
detailed it  had been a  time of determining what  needed to                                                                    
be  done  differently  in  the system.  Her  time  with  the                                                                    
commission  had ended  in July  2020. As  a victim's  rights                                                                    
advocate, the knowledge she had  gained while serving on the                                                                    
commission  was  transformative  in how  she  performed  her                                                                    
work. She believed that often  victim's rights advocates saw                                                                    
their piece of  the work, but not the larger  picture of the                                                                    
criminal justice system.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Stanfill shared that a  unique feature of the commission                                                                    
and its  proposed transformation  into the  criminal justice                                                                    
data workgroup was  its inclusion of judges  who could share                                                                    
insight  and information  regarding  the  court system.  She                                                                    
highlighted  the  involvement  of  the head  of  the  Public                                                                    
Defender Agency and the attorney  general or their designee.                                                                    
She  explained  it was  the  only  group  she knew  of  that                                                                    
included the  Court System perspective while  discussing the                                                                    
criminal justice  system. She pointed out  the structure was                                                                    
also   unique  because   most   often   those  who   support                                                                    
individuals who  harm Alaska's communities work  together in                                                                    
a  group and  those who  support individuals  who have  been                                                                    
harmed work together  in a group. The  working group brought                                                                    
both groups together  to try to find a  balance in providing                                                                    
supports  to those  doing  harm so  they  could make  better                                                                    
choices in  life going forward,  while also  recognizing the                                                                    
harm caused to the victim  to ensure the system provided the                                                                    
supports victims needed to be  made whole over an event that                                                                    
was not their choice.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Stanfill discussed  that while  AJIC (operated  through                                                                    
the University  of Alaska Anchorage) collected  and analyzed                                                                    
data,  they did  not have  the  story behind  the data.  She                                                                    
recalled from  a statistics class  that a  direct connection                                                                    
had  been made  between an  increase in  sexual assault  and                                                                    
consumption  of ice  cream based  on the  numbers only.  She                                                                    
stressed  the importance  of the  story behind  the numbers.                                                                    
She  explained that  the group  at the  table was  where the                                                                    
story got  told to understand  things like the reason  for a                                                                    
"blip" one year or what was  going on in the system that may                                                                    
have created something different.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Stanfill  stated that while  the group may no  longer be                                                                    
making formal  recommendations, it could  compile meaningful                                                                    
reports  that   legislators  could  use  to   bring  forward                                                                    
meaningful  legislation.  She  spoke to  the  importance  of                                                                    
having a  strong victim's rights  advocate in a seat  on the                                                                    
working  group. She  detailed that  in a  survey of  victims                                                                    
offered  over  the internet  and  in  a series  of  hearings                                                                    
conducted  by the  current  Criminal  Justice Commission  in                                                                    
four  locations  across  Alaska, the  commission  had  heard                                                                    
overwhelmingly  that  victims  did  not  feel  the  criminal                                                                    
justice process  was their  process. She  elaborated victims                                                                    
shared that  their story had been  taken and then it  was no                                                                    
longer their  story or about  them, but about a  system that                                                                    
often seemed to  be about winning or losing by  a defense or                                                                    
prosecution.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:43:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Stanfill  continued that victims had  indicated they did                                                                    
not feel  heard, were not  included in decisions,  and often                                                                    
times they  were not believed.  She explained that  having a                                                                    
victim's  rights  representative  appointed  by  the  groups                                                                    
working with  victims would allow victim's  rights advocates                                                                    
to have  a free voice  to say what  they need at  the table,                                                                    
regardless of  whether it  may be in  line with  what others                                                                    
would like for them to  say. The criminal justice system had                                                                    
a  huge  job in  its  attempt  to  accomplish the  goals  of                                                                    
holding   offenders   accountable,  imposing   the   correct                                                                    
sentence  reflecting the  seriousness  of  the offence,  and                                                                    
deterring future  criminal conduct, while at  the same time,                                                                    
supporting  the victims  and their  needs. She  relayed that                                                                    
the  balancing act  of needs  required continual  review and                                                                    
analyzation to  determine if  it was  performing the  way it                                                                    
should. She  strongly supported the  creation of  the Alaska                                                                    
Criminal Justice  Data Analysis  Commission where  the state                                                                    
could keep  a group coming  together to talk about  an issue                                                                    
that was way too prevalent in Alaska.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick thanked Ms. Stanfill for her testimony.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Johnson  asked if  there  would  be time  to                                                                    
speak to the bill.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick replied affirmatively.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon  asked  Ms.  Stanfill if  she  had  an                                                                    
opinion regarding adding a person  who had been convicted of                                                                    
a felony offense to the commission.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Stanfill replied  that the bill specified  that in order                                                                    
to serve on  the commission, a person convicted  of a felony                                                                    
could  no longer  be "on  paper," meaning  they had  to have                                                                    
fulfilled  their  sentence  and   be  off  probation.  While                                                                    
serving  on  the  commission, she  had  found  listening  to                                                                    
stories told by individuals who  had been incarcerated to be                                                                    
impactful.  She  elaborated  that people  forget  about  the                                                                    
impact trauma  had in growing  up. She expounded  on hearing                                                                    
about the challenge  people had coming out of  a long prison                                                                    
sentence for  kids who  got into trouble  early on  in life.                                                                    
She  felt  strongly the  person  serving  on the  commission                                                                    
needed to be  past the event, where  they could meaningfully                                                                    
participate  in  the  conversation without  looking  for  an                                                                    
outcome that could assist them  in some way. She believed as                                                                    
long  as  there  was  a  screening  process  by  the  public                                                                    
defender and Department of Law  (DOL), the person would be a                                                                    
good addition to the group.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon  wondered  about asking  Ms.  Stanfill                                                                    
about a yet to be proposed amendment.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick replied that  the committee could hear from                                                                    
Ms. Stanfill once the amendment process was underway.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:46:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TRAVIS WELCH,  PROGRAM OFFICER,  ALASKA MENTAL  HEALTH TRUST                                                                    
AUTHORITY (via teleconference), testified  in support of the                                                                    
legislation with a prepared statement:                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Trust  beneficiaries   account  for   approximately  40                                                                    
     percent   of   the   annual   incarcerations   in   DOC                                                                    
     facilities.   Beneficiaries    include   Alaskans   who                                                                    
     experience  mental illness,  intellectual developmental                                                                    
     disabilities,  substance  use  disorders,  Alzheimer's,                                                                    
     dementia,   and   other  cognitive   impairments   like                                                                    
     traumatic brain  injury. Available data  indicates that                                                                    
     unsentenced  and sentenced  trust beneficiaries  remain                                                                    
     incarcerated longer than non-trust beneficiaries.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Trust beneficiaries  are also over-represented  as both                                                                    
     perpetrators and victims of  crime. Alaska is currently                                                                    
     facing high  rates of violent  crimes such  as domestic                                                                    
     violence  and sexual  assault,  high recidivism  rates,                                                                    
     and  a  prison  population that  is  disproportionately                                                                    
     represented   by   trust  beneficiaries.   The   Alaska                                                                    
     Criminal Justice  Data Analysis  Commission established                                                                    
     by  HB   183  includes  appropriate   criminal  justice                                                                    
     representation  as  well  as the  opportunity  for  the                                                                    
     public to engage.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     HB  183 establishes  a body  that  represented the  key                                                                    
     stakeholders of  the criminal justice  system including                                                                    
     victims  of  crime,  a  member  of  the  Alaska  Native                                                                    
     community,  and a  person with  lived criminal  justice                                                                    
     involvement,  among others.  This  body would  maintain                                                                    
     and prioritize  data collection and  analysis functions                                                                    
     as recommended in the sunset  review of the ACJC by the                                                                    
     legislative  auditor.  The  collection,  research,  and                                                                    
     reporting   of  criminal   justice  data   to  such   a                                                                    
     representative  body   is  critical   to  understanding                                                                    
     criminal  justice in  Alaska  and  analyzing where  the                                                                    
     current   system   is    functioning   effectively   or                                                                    
     ineffectively,  in  order  to find  solutions  for  the                                                                    
     serious problems I just described.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     There are other important reasons  for a body like this                                                                    
     commission.  For  example,  improved  interdepartmental                                                                    
     communication; executive,  legislative, judicial branch                                                                    
     communication; and direct  meaningful dialogue with the                                                                    
     public to  produce results such  as small  problems get                                                                    
     identified  and solved,  public  awareness  of how  the                                                                    
     criminal  justice system  functions, opportunities  for                                                                    
     the public to share  their experiences with the system,                                                                    
     positive or negative.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     I  recognize  and appreciate  that  there  may be  some                                                                    
     concerns in establishing  this new commission; however,                                                                    
     I believe the benefits  of data-driven, informed public                                                                    
     policy that  can result  from this  commission outweigh                                                                    
     any concerns.  Our criminal justice system  is far from                                                                    
     perfect,  and   we  must   continue  efforts   to  make                                                                    
     investments based  on sound information.  Requiring the                                                                    
     body  to continue  to collect,  analyze, and  report on                                                                    
     data is  paramount to making Alaska's  criminal justice                                                                    
     system fair,  efficient, and protective of  the public.                                                                    
     As  a program  officer  with the  Alaska Mental  Health                                                                    
     Trust  whose  mission  is  to   improve  the  lives  of                                                                    
     vulnerable Alaskans and as a  former chief of police in                                                                    
     Alaska, I urge  the committee to support  HB 183. Thank                                                                    
     you.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:49:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick thanked Mr. Welch for his testimony.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon asked what  Mr. Welch thought about the                                                                    
fact that the  proposed commission did not  include a member                                                                    
from  the private  sector. He  asked it  if was  an omission                                                                    
that should be considered.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Welch replied  that it was an  interesting question that                                                                    
should be  discussed. He had  not looked at  that particular                                                                    
aspect. He believed  a diverse group was  important and that                                                                    
many  of the  desired stakeholders  were represented  in the                                                                    
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon   highlighted  the  hope   of  finding                                                                    
employment opportunities  for individuals coming out  of the                                                                    
prison system.  He asked if it  would be valuable to  have a                                                                    
private sector perspective in the process.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Welch answered that he could see value in the idea.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:51:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Johnson   had  a  number  of   concerns  and                                                                    
questions. She stated her concern  that there was already an                                                                    
AJIC steering  committee. She read from  the audit conducted                                                                    
by the Division of Legislative Audit (copy on file):                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Although we recommend sunsetting  the commission, we do                                                                    
     not recommend  terminating the data collection  and the                                                                    
     analysis  functions. Objective  evidence regarding  the                                                                    
     effectiveness of  the criminal justice system  and laws                                                                    
     governing  the system  are  critical  to future  policy                                                                    
     decisions.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Johnson  stated that the bill  did not create                                                                    
another  objective group,  but people  who may  influence or                                                                    
give  opinions  on what  the  data  should  or may  be.  She                                                                    
highlighted the  makeup of the AJIC  steering committee that                                                                    
included a  member of  the Alaska  Native Justice  Center, a                                                                    
member from  the Alaska Court  System, DOL, AMHTA,  DOC, the                                                                    
Department of  Health and Social  Services, DPS,  Council on                                                                    
Domestic Violence  and Sexual Assault (CDVSA).  She compared                                                                    
the existing  steering committee to the  proposed commission                                                                    
makeup. The  proposed commission included a  member from the                                                                    
Native  community nominated  by  the  Alaska Native  Justice                                                                    
Center, a member  from the Alaska Court  System, DOL, AMHTA,                                                                    
DOC, the  Department of Health  and Social Services,  DPS, a                                                                    
legislator (non-voting), two peace  officers selected by the                                                                    
Alaska Association  of Chiefs of  Police (also in  the realm                                                                    
of  public  safety),  a  public  defender,  victim's  rights                                                                    
advocate,  and  a  person formerly  convicted  of  a  felony                                                                    
offence.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Johnson stated  the bill set up  a board that                                                                    
was very similar  to an existing group  established in 1975.                                                                    
She  considered perhaps  people  forgot  about the  existing                                                                    
group.  She believed  the  bill went  above  and beyond  the                                                                    
audit's  recommendation to  sunset the  commission and  keep                                                                    
the data  collection and analysis  in an objective  way. She                                                                    
stated there  was already something  in place set up  by the                                                                    
legislature.  She  asked  if  it  was  efficient  to  create                                                                    
another group with similar people.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kubitz  deferred the question  to Ms. DiPietro  to speak                                                                    
to the differences  between the AJIC and  the commission she                                                                    
had staffed for many years.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  DiPietro   responded  it  was   a  question   that  the                                                                    
commission,  AJIC, and  the Judicial  Council spent  quite a                                                                    
bit of  time discussing and  working on when  the commission                                                                    
received the audit results and  was contemplating what would                                                                    
be a  good successor. At  the time it had  been acknowledged                                                                    
that  the Judicial  Council and  AJIC had  complementary but                                                                    
not  overlapping  research  expertise. She  elaborated  that                                                                    
AJIC  had its  own  research agenda,  which was  independent                                                                    
from  the criminal  justice agencies  and Judicial  Council.                                                                    
She shared  that the discussion  had been that AJIC  was not                                                                    
really  in a  position to  create a  research agenda  driven                                                                    
completely by the  data commission and to  make a commitment                                                                    
to  supporting   the  research  agenda  and   to  commit  to                                                                    
reporting back regularly to the  legislature on the research                                                                    
agenda.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:57:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   DiPietro  continued   to   answer   the  question   by                                                                    
Representative Johnson. She explained  that AJIC had its own                                                                    
research projects  and functions  and had  collaborated well                                                                    
and assisted with  the work of the  outgoing commission. She                                                                    
believed AJIC  would be  happy to  assist with  the proposed                                                                    
data commission and to share  the data. She relayed that the                                                                    
last time  the Judicial Council  spoke with the  director of                                                                    
AJIC and the  commission, AJIC was not really  in a position                                                                    
to take on the full staffing of the data commission.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:58:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon spoke  about the  battles through  SB
64,  SB 91,  SB 54,  HB 49  and a  slew of  other pieces  of                                                                    
legislation  that dealt  with  the  criminal justice  system                                                                    
sometimes  in   a  singular  way   and  other  times   in  a                                                                    
comprehensive way. He stated  that historically the agencies                                                                    
including AMHTA,  Court System all came  forward in earnest,                                                                    
but  in a  very  separate  manner. He  stated  there was  no                                                                    
comprehensive  approach.   He  observed  the   fiscal  notes                                                                    
attached to  the bill  had zero  fiscal impact.  He wondered                                                                    
why the  legislature would  not implement  the bill.  He did                                                                    
not see  any persuasive argument  against it. He  stated the                                                                    
committee had spent  a significant amount of  time with AJIC                                                                    
over the  years and he  recalled the agency's role  was more                                                                    
from an academic  standpoint. He stated AJIC's  role was not                                                                    
to  take  retired  judges, defenders,  prosecutors,  or  law                                                                    
enforcement to give a well-rounded perspective.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon underscored  that the state's criminal                                                                    
justice  system cost  at  least $500  million  on paper.  He                                                                    
stressed there were a whole range  of costs that were not on                                                                    
paper.  He  wondered  why  they  should  not  implement  the                                                                    
commission.  He  wanted to  hear  if  there was  a  credible                                                                    
argument against it. He stated  that if there was a credible                                                                    
argument,  he   wanted  to  hear   what,  in  lieu   of  the                                                                    
commission, would  bring forward policy  recommendations and                                                                    
needed interpretations  from a  multidisciplinary standpoint                                                                    
that  would serve  legislators' functions  as appropriators.                                                                    
He asked Ms. DiPietro to address the question.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. DiPietro  answered that she  did not understand  "why we                                                                    
would not  move forward with  this." She served on  the AJIC                                                                    
steering  committee and  as staff  to  the Criminal  Justice                                                                    
Commission.  She  relayed that  the  entities  had two  very                                                                    
different  roles that  were important  and complimentary  to                                                                    
each other.  She relayed that  the Judicial Council  was not                                                                    
requesting  any   additional  funding  to  staff   the  data                                                                    
commission. She  pointed out that the  council was proposing                                                                    
a decrement  because the work  of the data  commission would                                                                    
be smaller  in scope than  the work of the  Criminal Justice                                                                    
Commission.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:02:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Johnson spoke to  her concerns about the data                                                                    
commission. She  stated she  did not  believe anyone  in the                                                                    
room  did  not  want  to see  the  criminal  justice  system                                                                    
improved. She  believed policy makers  wanted to  see better                                                                    
things come  forward and they  all wanted to find  the right                                                                    
answers to  things. She pointed  out that the  committee was                                                                    
looking  at  a board  extension.  She  highlighted that  the                                                                    
audit's recommendation was to sunset  the board. She did not                                                                    
believe her  stance was  "way out there"  to want  to follow                                                                    
the  auditor's   recommendation.  She  remarked   that  some                                                                    
components  had  been  noted to  be  valuable;  however,  it                                                                    
included  the data  analysis component  and  not the  policy                                                                    
component.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Johnson  believed  that in  a  simple  board                                                                    
extension  the  bill  was getting  carried  away  with  many                                                                    
different  policy  changes.  She   remarked  that  the  bill                                                                    
changed the name  of the commission and  established a board                                                                    
with  nearly  the  same members  serving  on  another  board                                                                    
established  by the  legislature in  1975. The  proposal did                                                                    
not seem efficient  to her. She wanted to see  "this kind of                                                                    
thing" come forward  as a new board and  new discussion. She                                                                    
stated there  had been many  recommendations that  came from                                                                    
the  existing board,  which had  contributed to  SB 91.  She                                                                    
suggested starting fresh with  new discussion and setting up                                                                    
a  board where  the  legislature was  descriptive about  the                                                                    
policy it  wanted to see  brought forward instead  of trying                                                                    
to  put it  in a  board extension  the legislature  had been                                                                    
recommended to sunset.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:04:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick OPENED public testimony.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:05:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Merrick asked  the  Department  of Corrections  to                                                                    
review the first fiscal note.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
APRIL    WILKERSON,   ADMINISTRATIVE    SERVICES   DIRECTOR,                                                                    
DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS, OFFICE  OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET,                                                                    
OFFICE OF  THE GOVERNOR  (via teleconference), spoke  to the                                                                    
department's  zero  fiscal  note  within  the  research  and                                                                    
records  allocation   component.  She  explained   that  the                                                                    
department  was currently  providing  portions  of the  data                                                                    
request that  were identified in  HB 183; however,  if there                                                                    
was a  change or expansion  of the  data in the  future, the                                                                    
department would seek an additional position.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:06:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick  asked the Judicial  Council to  review the                                                                    
Fiscal Note 3.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  DiPietro reviewed  the Judicial  Council's fiscal  note                                                                    
showing  a  decrement.  She explained  that  the  scope  and                                                                    
function of  the Criminal  Justice Data  Analysis Commission                                                                    
would be less  than that of the  [outgoing] Criminal Justice                                                                    
Commission. The  council believed it could  support the work                                                                    
of the new commission with fewer resources than before.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:07:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick  asked the Department of  Health and Social                                                                    
Services to review the next fiscal note.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ALYSA WOODEN,  DIVISION OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH,  DEPARTMENT OF                                                                    
HEALTH  AND SOCIAL  SERVICES (via  teleconference), reviewed                                                                    
the department's zero fiscal note.  The division believed it                                                                    
could accomplish  all of  the requests  within the  bill and                                                                    
did not anticipate a fiscal impact.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick asked  the Court System to  review the last                                                                    
fiscal note.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NANCY   MEADE,  GENERAL   COUNSEL,   ALASKA  COURT   SYSTEM,                                                                    
discussed the  Court System's zero fiscal  note. She relayed                                                                    
that the Court System already  submitted much of the data to                                                                    
the Criminal  Justice Commission.  The Court  System provide                                                                    
the  data to  the new  commission as  required, without  any                                                                    
fiscal impact.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:08:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon asked  where the  Court System  would                                                                    
send the data if the bill did not pass.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Mead answered replied that  the current law required the                                                                    
Court System  to send a whole  slew of data to  the Criminal                                                                    
Justice  Commission. She  explained that  if the  commission                                                                    
sunset and was removed from  statute, the Court System would                                                                    
no  longer  gather or  send  the  data unless  someone  else                                                                    
requested it.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Edgmon  considered   that  in   theory  the                                                                    
information could  be sent to  the legislature  or executive                                                                    
branch. He clarified that he  was advocating for the current                                                                    
bill. He remarked that although  the data could be provided,                                                                    
there  would no  longer be  an  ability for  someone on  the                                                                    
other  end  to interpret  the  data  in  absence of  a  data                                                                    
commission. He was perplexed "about all of this."                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:10:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Mead responded that the  Court System was neutral on the                                                                    
bill. She  relayed that  the Court  System provided  data to                                                                    
anyone who asked within reason.  She noted there was readily                                                                    
available data that  was sort of easy to  provide. There was                                                                    
a  different  rule with  respect  to  people requesting  the                                                                    
Court  System  to  compile information,  which  depended  on                                                                    
resources. The  Court System could  provide the  data called                                                                    
for in the  legislation to the legislature,  DOC, or others.                                                                    
The Court  System entered into  agreements to  exchange data                                                                    
with    other    entities    sometimes.    She    understood                                                                    
Representative Edgmon's  point about who would  do what with                                                                    
the data  and perhaps it  would not  make its way  to policy                                                                    
makers.  She did  not  take  a position  on  the issue.  She                                                                    
relayed  that  if AJIC  or  others  sought data,  the  Court                                                                    
System was typically cooperative to the extent it could be.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon  stated he  believed she  had answered                                                                    
the  question  that  there was  no  definitive  response  to                                                                    
[inaudible].                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Merrick noted  that  Representative Carpenter  had                                                                    
joined the meeting at 2:06 p.m.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon asked  if Ms.  Mead was  familiar with                                                                    
the reports or data produced  by the commission. He asked if                                                                    
the data was received by the Court System.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Mead replied affirmatively.  She had personally attended                                                                    
all of the Criminal Justice Commission meetings.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon   asked  for  verification   that  the                                                                    
commission   collected  and   analyzed   data  and   offered                                                                    
recommendations for action to be taken by the legislature.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Mead   relayed  that  the  description   reflected  the                                                                    
operations of the Criminal  Justice Commission under current                                                                    
law. She  explained that  the bill  would modify  the duties                                                                    
and change  the name of  the commission and she  expected it                                                                    
would analyze  data and prepare reports.  She clarified that                                                                    
the bill stopped short of  requiring the proposed commission                                                                    
to provide  recommendations to the legislature  on bills and                                                                    
policy.  She  believed  it was  also  limited  to  providing                                                                    
recommendations on  how to spend  funds to assist  in issues                                                                    
regarding criminal justice.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:13:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon  asked if  Ms. Mead  had an  opinion on                                                                    
the addition of  a person who had a previous  felony and had                                                                    
been cleared [by serving out their sentence and probation].                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Mead replied that she would  not offer an opinion on the                                                                    
policy call.  She echoed  a prior  testifier who  had stated                                                                    
that   formerly    incarcerated   individuals   occasionally                                                                    
attended  the  meetings  to  offer  perspective,  which  she                                                                    
believed  voting   members  of  the  commission   had  found                                                                    
valuable. She  reiterated that she  did not have  a personal                                                                    
or Court System opinion on whether it was a good addition.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Merrick   thanked  Ms.  Mead  and   moved  to  the                                                                    
amendment process.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:14:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wool MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 1, 32-                                                                             
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     (16)  one person  who has  an  immediate family  member                                                                    
     incarcerated in  the state,  designated jointly  by the                                                                    
     deputy  attorney  general  for   the  division  of  the                                                                    
     Department of Law that  has responsibility for criminal                                                                    
     cases and the public defender for a three-year term"                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon OBJECTED.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wool  explained the amendment that  would add                                                                    
another member  on the proposed  commission. He  noted there                                                                    
were currently 15 members on  the commission including three                                                                    
judges, a member from the  Native community, deputy attorney                                                                    
general, public defender, commissioners  from DPS, DHSS, and                                                                    
DOC,  AMHTA,   two  police   officers,  a   victim's  rights                                                                    
advocate,  a person  who had  been incarcerated  and was  no                                                                    
longer in state custody. He  believed including a person who                                                                    
had been  in jail  was of the  utmost importance.  He stated                                                                    
that lawmakers did  not know what it was like  to serve time                                                                    
or be in state custody.  He stated that an increasing number                                                                    
of  places  require  individuals  released  from  prison  to                                                                    
comply  with a  list of  things including  drug and  alcohol                                                                    
testing  and numerous  appointments. He  remarked that  some                                                                    
had said that  the system was setting people  up for failure                                                                    
and increased the recidivism rate.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wool  explained that the amendment  would add                                                                    
a   family  member   of  an   incarcerated  person   to  the                                                                    
commission.  He  reviewed  the   makeup  of  the  commission                                                                    
members  and noted  there were  numerous individuals  on the                                                                    
law enforcement  and corrections  side. He pointed  out that                                                                    
if a father was incarcerated  it impacted his entire family.                                                                    
He  elaborated that  families had  to  deal with  a loss  of                                                                    
income and  had to help  the person once they  were released                                                                    
on  parole  or  probation.  He believed  the  experience  of                                                                    
having a  family member in  prison was valuable as  well. He                                                                    
referenced adverse childhood  experiences (ACES) scores; one                                                                    
of  the experiences  was an  incarcerated family  member. He                                                                    
remarked that prison populations  were increasing in Alaska.                                                                    
He thought eventually the state  would have to build another                                                                    
prison  or  send prisoners  outside  of  state. He  believed                                                                    
having  the  perspective  of  a  family  member  of  someone                                                                    
incarcerated  completed  one  of  the pieces  that  was  not                                                                    
included.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:19:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Merrick referenced  Representative Wool's  mention                                                                    
that  sometimes incarcerated  individuals were  sent out-of-                                                                    
state.  She provided  a scenario  where a  person serving  a                                                                    
three-year term  on the commission  had a loved one  sent to                                                                    
prison  out-of-state. She  asked  if  the commission  member                                                                    
would be replaced under the circumstances.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wool  replied in the negative.  He thought it                                                                    
could be an indicative experience  of what could happen more                                                                    
and more.  He stated  his understanding  that the  state was                                                                    
not using  outside prisons with  the exception of  a handful                                                                    
of federal prisoners and other.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Rasmussen requested  to hear  Ms. Stanfill's                                                                    
opinion  on  the proposed  amendment.  She  asked about  the                                                                    
potential impact on victims.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Stanfill   referenced  her  prior  experience   on  the                                                                    
commission and  relayed there was  a lot of  conversation at                                                                    
the table  and those at the  table had a voice.  She thought                                                                    
that having people involved in  the system who could provide                                                                    
real life experiences was important.  She stated that having                                                                    
the  voice of  someone who  understood what  it was  like to                                                                    
have  a family  member  serving time  out-of-state could  be                                                                    
impactful. She  noted that when  a person was  going through                                                                    
something  at  the  present  moment,   it  was  hard  to  be                                                                    
objective. She  noted it happened in  victims' circles also.                                                                    
She pointed  out that often times  when conversations arose,                                                                    
a person thought  about how it may impact  them and/or their                                                                    
family member.  She encouraged the  committee to  consider a                                                                    
family member  of a  person who had  previously been  in the                                                                    
correctional system. She  did not believe it was  a bad idea                                                                    
to have  a voice at  the table  who could really  talk about                                                                    
the experience.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:22:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon asked Ms.  Stanfill if it was redundant                                                                    
to have a  person who was once convicted of  a felony on the                                                                    
commission  in  addition to  a  family  member of  a  person                                                                    
currently serving prison  time in Alaska. He  wondered if it                                                                    
tilted  the balance  of the  commission. He  wondered if  it                                                                    
helped  with the  commission's  intended  purpose to  reduce                                                                    
crime in addition to gathering and analyzing data.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Stanfill replied it was  not really a tilt when thinking                                                                    
about  the different  people represented  on the  commission                                                                    
including  law enforcement,  public defender,  and DOL.  She                                                                    
reasoned that  because it  would be  a data  commission that                                                                    
would not put  recommendations forward, it would  be okay to                                                                    
add  another person.  She added  that the  person had  to be                                                                    
agreed  on  by  DOL  and  the  public  defender,  which  she                                                                    
believed was a  way of ensuring the person  would be looking                                                                    
out  for the  best  interest  of the  State  of Alaska.  She                                                                    
highlighted  the importance  of a  balanced approach  on the                                                                    
commission.  She explained  that as  a victim  advocate, she                                                                    
was  not necessarily  thinking about  the trauma  the person                                                                    
going to  jail would experience, what  they had experienced,                                                                    
and  what their  family would  experience. She  was thinking                                                                    
about the victim  and their pain. She  stated the commission                                                                    
was a way  of bringing a group together that  could share in                                                                    
all of the experiences and come up with the right balance.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon asked  if  Ms.  Stanfill was  familiar                                                                    
with how a parole board was set up in Alaska.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Stanfill replied that she was not.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick asked Ms. Wilkerson to reply.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Wilkerson asked to hear the question restated.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative   LeBon  was   interested   in  the   typical                                                                    
composition of a parole board.  He wondered about the number                                                                    
of  individuals  on the  board  and  the background  of  the                                                                    
members.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Wilkerson  answered that she  could respond  in writing.                                                                    
She noted there were five board members.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon noted that she  did not need to respond                                                                    
in writing.  He believed  the parole board  sought diversity                                                                    
in  its  membership  as  well.  He  wondered  if  there  was                                                                    
representation  from  the  private business  sector  on  the                                                                    
parole  board. He  thought the  absence  was as  much of  an                                                                    
absence as the suggestion of  adding someone with a criminal                                                                    
background or  a family member of  someone currently serving                                                                    
time in prison.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:26:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Carpenter   asked  if  the   commission  was                                                                    
currently allowed to  bring a family member  on in pertinent                                                                    
situations as invited testimony to help with perspective.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Stanfill replied that public  comment time was available                                                                    
at all of the commission  meetings. She detailed that public                                                                    
comment time  allowed time  for individuals  (i.e., victims,                                                                    
incarcerated individuals,  and family members) to  share the                                                                    
story.  She relayed  that the  commission had  heard from  a                                                                    
substantial  number  of  family members  talking  about  the                                                                    
impact  of the  sex  offender registry.  The commission  had                                                                    
also heard  family members  talk about  the impact  on their                                                                    
kids with a  change in financial status.  She clarified that                                                                    
the commission meetings were specific  to the members of the                                                                    
commission  in terms  of having  a voice  at the  table. She                                                                    
explained that if the person  [under the proposed amendment]                                                                    
was  not on  the commission,  they would  not have  an equal                                                                    
voice, but they would have a time to speak.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Carpenter asked  if the  issues included  in                                                                    
the data  and analysis performed by  the commission impacted                                                                    
families.  He was  trying  to get  more  information on  the                                                                    
commission's workload and what it did.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Stanfill  replied   that  she  had  not   been  on  the                                                                    
commission  for  the  past  two years.  She  deferred  to  a                                                                    
current member.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. DiPietro replied that  currently the commission's policy                                                                    
work  was  informed  by  the  members  of  the  public  with                                                                    
experience of  the criminal  justice system  who came  in to                                                                    
tell  their  stories. She  suspected  that  if the  Criminal                                                                    
Justice Data Analysis Commission  became a successor entity,                                                                    
although people's  perspectives would still be  welcome, the                                                                    
commission would be  looking at the data  and adding context                                                                    
to the data and would  not be making policy recommendations;                                                                    
therefore, the input may be a little less relevant.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:30:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Carpenter was trying  to understand the value                                                                    
of having  a family  member of an  incarcerated person  as a                                                                    
member  of  the board  versus  having  the board  hear  from                                                                    
public  comment when  necessary. He  considered that  if the                                                                    
new commission was  focused on data, it seemed to  be a role                                                                    
for professionals who understood the system.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. DiPietro  replied it  was difficult  to predict  how the                                                                    
discussions  would go.  From the  perspective of  the entity                                                                    
that would  be staffing  the commission,  there would  be no                                                                    
logistical  or fiscal  problem for  the  council to  include                                                                    
such a person as a member.  She noted it was hard to predict                                                                    
the value  of their  comments and  observations, but  it was                                                                    
also difficult to say there would be no value.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:32:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Johnson  thought it opened up  an interesting                                                                    
idea.  She asked  if  there  was value  in  having a  family                                                                    
member of a victim on the board.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Stanfill  replied  affirmatively.  When  considering  a                                                                    
balance,  she had  debated  the question  in  her mind.  She                                                                    
elaborated that  currently there  was a position  that would                                                                    
be appointed  by groups that  worked with victims  but there                                                                    
was  not a  position  for a  victim or  family  member of  a                                                                    
victim. She would  not discourage the idea  and believed the                                                                    
perspective would be a good addition.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson referenced  AS 33.16.020 pertaining                                                                    
to the  board of  parole, which  was composed  of geographic                                                                    
spread  by judicial  district and  required the  governor to                                                                    
use  due regard  for representation  of the  board based  on                                                                    
ethnic, racial, sexual, and cultural populations.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon  asked for verification that  the idea                                                                    
presented in  Amendment 1 had  been presented  or considered                                                                    
in the past.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:34:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  DiPietro replied  that when  the  commission had  first                                                                    
been contemplated  there had been  robust discussion  on the                                                                    
composition its composition. She  believed the idea had been                                                                    
discussed;  however,  she  had  not   been  a  part  of  the                                                                    
discussion.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Edgmon   stated   it   aligned   with   his                                                                    
recollection of SB 64 that created the commission.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Johnson  MOVED  conceptual  Amendment  1  to                                                                    
include an immediate  family member of a victim  of a felony                                                                    
crime.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wool explained the  reason he had offered the                                                                    
amendment  to include  a family  member  of an  incarcerated                                                                    
individual was because they had  a different experience from                                                                    
the incarcerated  individual. He believed the  family member                                                                    
of  a  victim  also  had a  different  experience  than  the                                                                    
victim. He considered the idea  and did not know whether the                                                                    
distinction between  the victim  and a  family member  was a                                                                    
pronounced. He stated  there was a victim of a  crime on the                                                                    
commission  already.  He referenced  Representative  LeBon's                                                                    
comment  about redundancy  because  there  was one  formerly                                                                    
convicted  person on  the commission  out of  a total  of 16                                                                    
members. He remarked that the  other 15 members included law                                                                    
enforcement, lawyers, judges, and  commissioners. He did not                                                                    
believe  adding  the  position proposed  under  Amendment  1                                                                    
would create a tilt in  the board composition. He believed a                                                                    
victim  of the  crime  would  be more  on  the  side of  law                                                                    
enforcement. His  goal was to have  a different perspective.                                                                    
He the  sponsor of the  conceptual amendment to  discuss the                                                                    
different perspective  the family  member of a  victim would                                                                    
offer.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:38:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon  stated there  were two  directions the                                                                    
commission could go: 1) data  collection as a process and 2)                                                                    
interpretation  of the  data into  a recommendation  to take                                                                    
action  by the  legislature. He  wondered if  the commission                                                                    
was about  more than data  collection, whether the  goal was                                                                    
to get  as many voices at  the table as possible.  If so, he                                                                    
noted the  conceptual amendment would  add another  voice to                                                                    
the  table.  He  added  that   he  would  need  to  offer  a                                                                    
subsequent  conceptual  amendment to  add  a  banker to  the                                                                    
table.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Carpenter  was  opposed to  heading  in  the                                                                    
direction of Amendment 1 if  its intent of adding additional                                                                    
members to  the commission for different  perspective was to                                                                    
steer  results  or  outcomes  that  were  more  friendly  to                                                                    
incarcerated  individuals or  their family  members. One  of                                                                    
the  things people  should think  about before  committing a                                                                    
crime was about how the  crime would impact their family. He                                                                    
did not want  to see it made easier for  people committing a                                                                    
crime.  He  stated it  was  a  consequence of  committing  a                                                                    
crime.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:41:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  surmised that  Representative Wool  did not                                                                    
support Representative Johnson's conceptual amendment.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wool   stated  that  under  the   bill,  the                                                                    
commission   included  a   victim's   rights  advocate.   He                                                                    
commented  on  Representative  Carpenter's  remarks  that  a                                                                    
person  should  think about  how  committing  a crime  would                                                                    
impact their  family. He  did not think  it was  always that                                                                    
clear.  He  noted there  was  mental  illness and  substance                                                                    
abuse  that  contributed to  crimes.  He  was not  defending                                                                    
criminals, but  there was more  than one reason to  commit a                                                                    
crime. He  stated there  were many  problems in  society and                                                                    
the solution was not as simple  as locking people up and for                                                                    
longer.  He recognized  it reduced  crime,  but it  produced                                                                    
other problems. He stated the  family bore the brunt of much                                                                    
of it and they were  innocent. He considered why corrections                                                                    
was a  growing section  of the  state's budget.  He remarked                                                                    
that there  was opposition  to adding  to schools,  but they                                                                    
were adding  to corrections,  police, and courts.  He stated                                                                    
the problem needed to be  addressed holistically. He opposed                                                                    
the conceptual amendment.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Rasmussen asked to  hear what each respective                                                                    
family  member  would  bring  to  the  commission  from  the                                                                    
proposed amendments.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:44:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Johnson replied  that a  family member  of a                                                                    
victim had  a unique  perspective [poor audio  quality]. She                                                                    
suggested adding  the individual  to add  to the  balance of                                                                    
the  commission's membership.  She  believed the  individual                                                                    
could  bring a  very  different perspective  to a  situation                                                                    
than someone speaking about something academically.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Thompson thought  the commission was sounding                                                                    
more  and more  like  the group  that worked  on  SB 91.  He                                                                    
elaborated  that the  working  group had  included the  same                                                                    
list of  individuals as the proposed  commission in addition                                                                    
to several more. He relayed the  group had come up with ways                                                                    
to reduce the  cost associated with crime.  He cautioned the                                                                    
need to be careful.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon  noted that SB  91 had passed  in 2016                                                                    
and  done  away  with  in  2019. He  remarked  that  he  and                                                                    
Representative  Thompson  had  both   served  on  the  House                                                                    
Finance  Committee  at  the   time.  He  recalled  extensive                                                                    
testimony on reform  measures taking a period of  time to be                                                                    
effective.  He believed  Representative  Johnson's point  on                                                                    
having the victim  perspective was well taken.  He noted the                                                                    
proposed  commission  already  included  a  victim's  rights                                                                    
advocate. He thought  there seemed to be  a nuance involved.                                                                    
He  understood  that  the  bill  sponsor  had  been  on  the                                                                    
Criminal Justice Commission  for a period of  time. He asked                                                                    
to hear the bill sponsor's perspective.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:48:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MATT  CLAMAN,   SPONSOR,  relayed  that  Ms.                                                                    
Stanfill had served on the  commission for several years and                                                                    
when  her term  ended,  the governor  appointed  a man  from                                                                    
Kotzebue whose daughter had been  brutally murdered. The man                                                                    
was  a member  of a  victim's rights  group in  Kotzebue. He                                                                    
explained that the individual  had attended several meetings                                                                    
but  there was  a level  of  policy detail  involved on  the                                                                    
commission and Representative Claman  believed it had been a                                                                    
hard place for  the individual to be. He  explained that Ms.                                                                    
Stanfill  worked  with victims  daily  and  in working  with                                                                    
domestic  violence groups,  the  bill  specified the  groups                                                                    
would  work together  to select  a  person to  serve on  the                                                                    
proposed  commission.  He  believed   it  was  important  to                                                                    
include  someone who  was in  the business  of working  with                                                                    
victims. He  pointed out that  the notion of hearing  from a                                                                    
victim  on  the  commission  may   make  it  harder  on  the                                                                    
individual.   He  considered   the  amendment   proposed  by                                                                    
Representative  Wool  and  thought  it  was  an  interesting                                                                    
discussion;  however,   in  his  experience   as  commission                                                                    
membership  grew  in  size  it  became  more  unwieldly  and                                                                    
complicated.  He advised  maintaining the  current size  and                                                                    
membership proposed in the bill.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Rasmussen    appreciated    Representative                                                                    
Claman's comments about the size  of the council growing too                                                                    
large. She  agreed it could  be a  concern. She asked  if he                                                                    
thought there  was a difference  in the level  of competency                                                                    
that the relative  of an incarcerated person  had versus the                                                                    
relative of a victim. She  asked if the two would experience                                                                    
parity in their policy knowledge.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Claman   answered  that  the   knowledge  of                                                                    
someone  from the  Network on  Domestic  Violence and  their                                                                    
understanding of policy  issues was much more  in depth than                                                                    
the average  family member of an  incarcerated individual or                                                                    
the  average family  member  of a  victim.  He believed  the                                                                    
latter two  would be very  focused on the  specific incident                                                                    
or events  of their personal family  experience. He believed                                                                    
it   was  incredibly   important,  which   was  the   reason                                                                    
committees heard  public testimony. He stated  that in terms                                                                    
of  policy expertise,  people working  with the  issues more                                                                    
regularly brought a level of  understanding that was hard to                                                                    
bring just from  families. He was not in any  way meaning to                                                                    
diminish the importance of families' participation.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wool  referred  to  Representative  Claman's                                                                    
mention  of  perspective  of  a  professional  advocate  for                                                                    
victim's rights that was less  emotionally attached in their                                                                    
professional  experience in  dealing with  many victims  and                                                                    
not  only a  family  member. He  noted  that the  commission                                                                    
included a formerly convicted  individual, which he believed                                                                    
was  a good  perspective  to  have. He  did  not believe  an                                                                    
advocate  could have  that  same  perspective. He  discussed                                                                    
people who advocated for rights  of families or incarcerated                                                                    
individuals. For example, the  state's prison system had not                                                                    
allowed any  visitors for over  a year [due to  the COVID-19                                                                    
pandemic]. He  remarked it was  traumatic for  families when                                                                    
they could not see a loved one  for over a year. He asked if                                                                    
there  was an  advocacy group  for families  of incarcerated                                                                    
individuals.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Claman  replied  that   in  serving  on  the                                                                    
commission  for the  last several  years, the  most frequent                                                                    
advocate  for  incarcerated   individuals  was  the  reentry                                                                    
coalitions.  The  commission  had  occasionally  heard  from                                                                    
families of  incarcerated individuals.  He relayed  that the                                                                    
reentry coalitions  did not have members  on the commission,                                                                    
but  they  routinely   attended  meetings,  provided  public                                                                    
comment,  and  wrote to  the  commission  with comments.  He                                                                    
stated  that lack  of  presence on  the  commission did  not                                                                    
prevent people from getting information.  He noted the issue                                                                    
about  visitation had  been discussed  in recent  commission                                                                    
meetings.   He  elaborated   that  DOC   presented  to   the                                                                    
commission  a  couple  of  times   to  present  on  how  the                                                                    
department  was  dealing with  visitation  in  light of  the                                                                    
pandemic. The fact  that someone did not have a  seat on the                                                                    
commission did  not mean the  concerns would not  be brought                                                                    
forward.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:56:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative     Wool     referenced    Ms.     Stanfill's                                                                    
recommendation  to  have  a  family  member  of  a  formerly                                                                    
incarcerated individual  in order  to avoid having  a person                                                                    
on the commission with a  personal agenda. He understood the                                                                    
commission was not  for that purpose. He wanted  to have the                                                                    
perspective of a person with  an incarcerated family member.                                                                    
He would  not be  opposed to  inserting the  word "formerly"                                                                    
into the amendment.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wool WITHDREW Amendment 1.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:58:01 PM                                                                                                                    
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3:02:41 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  noted  Amendment   1  and  the  conceptual                                                                    
amendment and had been withdrawn.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon  MOVED  to   ADOPT  Amendment  2,  32-                                                                    
LS0645\G.2 (Radford, 5/3/22) (copy on file):                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 10, following "AS 44.19.642(a)":                                                                              
     Insert ", as amended by sec. 135(23) of Executive                                                                          
     Order 121,"                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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     Delete "and social services"                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
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Representative Wool OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon explained  that  the  amendment was  a                                                                    
cleanup amendment required  in the wake of the  split of the                                                                    
Department   of  Health   and  Social   Services  into   two                                                                    
departments by Executive Order  121. The amendment clarified                                                                    
that  one of  the members  of  the commission  would be  the                                                                    
commissioner   of   the   Department  of   Health   or   the                                                                    
commissioner's designee.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wool WITHDREW his OBJECTION.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
There being NO further OBJECTION, Amendment 2 was ADOPTED.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  MOVED  to  REPORT  CSHB  183(FIN)  out  of                                                                    
committee   with   individual    recommendations   and   the                                                                    
accompanying fiscal notes.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Johnson  OBJECTED.  She  believed  the  bill                                                                    
established   something   that   was   outside   the   scope                                                                    
recommended by  the audit. The audit  recommended the sunset                                                                    
of  the commission  and maintaining  the  data and  analysis                                                                    
component to help the legislature  make more informed policy                                                                    
decisions.  She  did  not  support the  creation  of  a  new                                                                    
council  that  would  be similar  to  the  Criminal  Justice                                                                    
Commission that had brought forth  SB 91. She noted the data                                                                    
did not  lead the  legislature in  the right  direction. She                                                                    
did  not   favor  making  policy  changes   within  a  board                                                                    
extension.  She thought  the commission  was redundant.  She                                                                    
pointed out  that the University of  Alaska's Justice Center                                                                    
had  been established  in  1975  to do  the  same work.  She                                                                    
stated there were numerous groups  to address the issues the                                                                    
commission  would   address.  She   thought  setting   up  a                                                                    
commission  deserved a  more detailed  policy discussion  on                                                                    
how  to   address  issues   related  to   incarceration  and                                                                    
recidivism in Alaska.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:06:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Wool, Edgmon, Josephson, Ortiz, Merrick, Foster                                                                       
OPPOSED: Thompson, Carpenter, Johnson, LeBon, Rasmussen                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION  PASSED (6/5). There being  NO further OBJECTION,                                                                    
it was so ordered.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CSHB 183(FIN)  was REPORTED out  of committee with  four "do                                                                    
pass" recommendations,  four "do not  pass" recommendations,                                                                    
and four  "no recommendation"  recommendations and  with one                                                                    
new  zero fiscal  note from  the Department  of Corrections;                                                                    
one new zero  fiscal note from the Department  of Health and                                                                    
Social   Services  for   the  Department   of  Health;   one                                                                    
previously published  zero fiscal  note: FN1 (AJS);  and one                                                                    
previously published fiscal impact note: FN3 (AJS).                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:07:34 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:08:46 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 20(FIN)                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to teaching certificates for teachers                                                                     
     holding out-of-state certificates."                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:08:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TIM  LAMKIN,  STAFF,  SENATOR   GARY  STEVENS,  thanked  the                                                                    
committee for hearing  the bill. He explained  that the bill                                                                    
was a result  of some emergency regulations  enacted in 2020                                                                    
due to COVID-19, which resulted  in significant support from                                                                    
school  districts  in helping  them  find  teachers to  fill                                                                    
classrooms more quickly. The bill  was a reflection of those                                                                    
amendments  and the  changes that  had been  made. The  bill                                                                    
would  lower  barriers  to  entry and  reduce  some  of  the                                                                    
administrative  bureaucracy  for existing  teacher  programs                                                                    
coming into the system. The  bill enabled teachers holding a                                                                    
regular teacher  certification in another state  to teach in                                                                    
Alaska. The  individual had to  hold a four-year  degree, go                                                                    
through the standard background  checks required to teach in                                                                    
Alaska,  and  complete  multicultural  education  coursework                                                                    
within  two years.  Individuals would  still undergo  all of                                                                    
requirements pertaining  to alcohol  and drug  awareness and                                                                    
abuse, sexual  assault awareness, and suicide  awareness and                                                                    
would have 90 days to complete their training.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Lamkin   continued  to  explain  the   legislation.  He                                                                    
explained that the  concept of the bill  applied to teachers                                                                    
with years of  classroom experience who had  taken the basic                                                                    
competency exam at some point  in time. The bill would allow                                                                    
the individuals  to teach without  retaking the  exam, which                                                                    
was fairly onerous.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:11:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Johnson  asked  how many  other  states  had                                                                    
similar reciprocity agreements or arrangement.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Lamkin deferred to the department.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SONDRA   MEREDITH,   TEACHER  CERTIFICATION   ADMINISTRATOR,                                                                    
DEPARTMENT   OF  EDUCATION   AND   EARLY  DEVELOPMENT   (via                                                                    
teleconference), answered that most  states had some form of                                                                    
allowances  for  individuals  who  were  fully  licensed  in                                                                    
another state. She reported what  the allowances looked like                                                                    
varied from  state to state.  There were a number  of states                                                                    
that did  not require individuals with  regular licensure to                                                                    
take additional exams. She did not have an exact number.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:12:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Ortiz  referenced  Mr. Lamkin's  statement  that                                                                    
under the  bill, in order  for a  teacher to receive  one of                                                                    
the  certificates   they  would   have  to  have   years  of                                                                    
experience. He  asked if the  bill stipulated the  number of                                                                    
years of experience required in order to qualify.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Lamkin replied that the  bill was not that prescriptive.                                                                    
He noted there  were regulations in place  that Ms. Meredith                                                                    
could speak to.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Meredith  responded that beyond what  existed in current                                                                    
statute, the  Department of Education and  Early Development                                                                    
(DEED) had  not added additional regulatory  requirements to                                                                    
the type  of certificate  addressed in  the bill.  There was                                                                    
currently no  stipulation for a  certain number of  years of                                                                    
experience to qualify under the certificate.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz  stated that  theoretically a  person could                                                                    
get certified  in a different state  for half of a  year and                                                                    
perhaps get a  certificate in the State of  Alaska. He asked                                                                    
what the certificate category would be called.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Meredith  answered   that  the   department  currently                                                                    
referred  to  the  certificate as  an  initial  out-of-state                                                                    
certificate.   Through   the   changes   proposed   in   the                                                                    
legislation,  an individual  would  qualify  after they  had                                                                    
done  the Alaska  multicultural coursework  for the  regular                                                                    
professional license in Alaska.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz  asked for verification  it was  possible a                                                                    
person  could  come  directly  out  of  school  without  any                                                                    
previous experience and still qualify for the certificate.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Meredith   confirmed  it  would  be   possible  if  the                                                                    
individual  qualified for  a regular  license, meaning  they                                                                    
had done all  that was necessary in their state  to gain the                                                                    
license in another jurisdiction.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:15:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz appreciated  the bill and was  aware of the                                                                    
issues  the state  was having  with  obtaining teachers.  He                                                                    
clarified  his   questions  were   not  meant   to  indicate                                                                    
objection to the purpose of the bill. He asked about the J-                                                                     
1 Visa program that DEED had  in place and how it may differ                                                                    
from   the  certificate   requirements  offered   under  the                                                                    
legislation.  He  remarked that  J-1  was  more for  foreign                                                                    
based  teachers. He  asked if  they  were the  same kind  of                                                                    
education requirements.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Meredith  answered that the J-1  Visa individuals coming                                                                    
to Alaska  were not  qualifying through the  initial out-of-                                                                    
state certificate. The  individuals were frequently required                                                                    
to go  through emergency  licensure when  they did  not have                                                                    
the  testing when  they  first began  in  Alaska. After  the                                                                    
emergency licensure  the individuals  moved into one  of the                                                                    
state's  initial licensures  where they  had to  demonstrate                                                                    
they had  the training  with the  equivalent to  a four-year                                                                    
degree in Alaska in addition  to the completion of a teacher                                                                    
preparation   program.  The   certificate  under   the  bill                                                                    
differed significantly  and would not  be one that  J-1 Visa                                                                    
applicants would qualify for.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:18:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz asked  which would have a higher  bar for a                                                                    
teacher: the J-1 Visa program or the SB 20 proposal.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Meredith responded that she  did not know that she could                                                                    
equate  the  two except  for  the  fact  that the  J-1  Visa                                                                    
individuals  still needed  to  do  the testing  requirements                                                                    
after  the   emergency  certificate,  whereas   the  testing                                                                    
requirements  would not  be  necessary  for the  certificate                                                                    
under SB 20.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz  asked if it  was currently possible  for a                                                                    
teacher   from    another   state   to    obtain   temporary                                                                    
certification to teach in Alaska in the coming fall.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Meredith  responded that the current  statutory language                                                                    
allowed for a  form of reciprocity where  the individual had                                                                    
to provide  proof of a  bachelor's degree and  valid regular                                                                    
certificate.  She explained  it gave  the individual  a one-                                                                    
year  period  of  time  to provide  evidence  of  the  basic                                                                    
competency exams.  She elaborated that the  individuals then                                                                    
moved on  to complete  the two  required courses.  The route                                                                    
was  currently available  but  on  occasion the  individuals                                                                    
coming  in   through  the  route   had  multiple   years  of                                                                    
experience (sometimes 15  to 20 years) and  were required to                                                                    
locate or retake  the basic competency exam,  which could be                                                                    
a challenge.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Ortiz stated  his  understanding  that the  bill                                                                    
removed the competency exam from  the process of obtaining a                                                                    
certificate  that  was currently  in  place  for anyone  who                                                                    
wanted to  come to Alaska  to work as a  teacher (regardless                                                                    
of prior experience).                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Meredith answered  that it was a primary  feature of the                                                                    
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:22:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Lamkin  clarified that currently  in Alaska,  all people                                                                    
preparing  to teach  had  to take  the  competency exam.  He                                                                    
highlighted  that  the  exam  was  difficult;  however,  not                                                                    
entirely because  of its content, but  by its administrative                                                                    
nature. He  referred to  an anecdote  from an  individual in                                                                    
rural Alaska who  had tried to take the exam  online and the                                                                    
system  had  crashed   in  the  middle  of   the  exam.  The                                                                    
individual  had already  spent hundreds  of dollars  to take                                                                    
the  exam that  he  felt  he did  not  really  need to  take                                                                    
because  he  had  come  from   out-of-state  with  years  of                                                                    
experience. He stated the exam  was bemoaned by many people.                                                                    
The bill  would alleviate the  burden. He elaborated  it was                                                                    
presumed that in another state  where a teacher had received                                                                    
a  regular teacher  certification that  they had  undertaken                                                                    
the  same  process  and  had  already  taken  that  type  of                                                                    
competency exam in the past.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Josephson   referenced    Ms.   Meredith's                                                                    
testimony   that  currently   a   person   could  obtain   a                                                                    
preliminary certificate. He thought  she had stated a person                                                                    
had to meet  some obligation within a  year [after obtaining                                                                    
the  preliminary certificate].  He observed  the legislation                                                                    
gave people  two years  to take  a course  or do  the things                                                                    
needed to be certified in  Alaska. He asked if the timeframe                                                                    
was one difference between existing law and the bill.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Lamkin   replied  affirmatively.  He   elaborated  that                                                                    
individuals   were   required    to   take   cross-cultural,                                                                    
multicultural  coursework  to   help  sensitize  individuals                                                                    
coming  in from  out of  state to  Alaska's unique  culture,                                                                    
geography,   and  circumstances.   He  explained   that  the                                                                    
University  did   not  offer  the  course   every  semester;                                                                    
therefore,  the two-year  window  gave  individuals time  to                                                                    
align their schedules with the course schedule.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson referenced  Mr. Lamkin's statements                                                                    
about  the difficulty  of the  administrative nature  of the                                                                    
test. He  shared that he  was currently a  certified teacher                                                                    
and had  a master's  degree in  education that  had required                                                                    
all sorts  of tests.  He did not  recall a  basic competency                                                                    
test. He asked how to ensure  the state was not going to get                                                                    
washed-out teachers from the Lower 48.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Lamkin deferred to the department.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:25:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Meredith  answered that the quality  of educators coming                                                                    
into  Alaska was  checked by  a number  of different  things                                                                    
beginning  with and  likely  most  effectively, through  the                                                                    
hiring  process.  The  hiring  process looked  at  level  of                                                                    
expertise  and  recommendations.  Additionally,  there  were                                                                    
certification  processes that  ensured the  credentialing of                                                                    
the individual  met the statutory and  regulatory standards.                                                                    
She relayed  the individuals were  evaluated after  one year                                                                    
to  determine whether  the  districts  felt their  expertise                                                                    
warranted another year of service.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson looked  at  the  repealers in  the                                                                    
bill that included AS 14.20.015  (f), which specified that a                                                                    
preliminary  teacher certificate  and any  endorsements were                                                                    
valid for  three years and  may not be renewed.  The removal                                                                    
of that suggested  they were valid forever or  that they may                                                                    
be  renewed. He  asked if  there  would be  people who  were                                                                    
preliminary teachers forever or if  the bill was designed to                                                                    
mean  the  individuals would  be  regular  teachers and  not                                                                    
preliminary teachers who would  comply with the terms within                                                                    
the specific window.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Meredith  replied it  was  her  understanding that  the                                                                    
repeal   of  the   sections  allowed   the  certificate   to                                                                    
recognized  as  a  regular certificate  and  after  the  two                                                                    
classes were  completed, the  certificate would  be extended                                                                    
to  a five-year  period  and could  be  renewed through  the                                                                    
renewal requirements set out in regulation.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson spoke  to his  personal experience                                                                    
working as a teacher  for a year and a half  in the past. He                                                                    
asked Mr.  Lamkin what the  teacher demand was that  was not                                                                    
currently  being met.  He asked  if he  should be  concerned                                                                    
that the legislation lowered the standards.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Lamkin answered  the  demand had  been  an outcry  from                                                                    
Alaska's  districts  for some  time.  He  relayed there  was                                                                    
upcoming invited  testimony to speak  to the need.  The bill                                                                    
was  prompted by  emergency regulations  that were  taken up                                                                    
with great success. Additionally,  the bill sponsor had been                                                                    
contacted  by Kodiak,  Anchorage, and  others who  applauded                                                                    
the  emergency regulations  and  hoped to  see  it put  more                                                                    
solidly in statute for the long-term.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson   asked  if  teachers   should  be                                                                    
concerned the bill watered down the standards.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Lamkin answered  that the issue had  been deliberated in                                                                    
earlier  committees, particularly  education committees.  He                                                                    
expounded  that  an  amendment  had been  made  to  page  2,                                                                    
Section  2,  line 11  that  added  a valid  regular  teacher                                                                    
certificate.  He  stated  that  to date  everyone  had  been                                                                    
satisfied  that the  bill did  not establish  a system  that                                                                    
brought in washed up teachers from out of state.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:31:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick moved to invited testimony.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PEGGY   RANKIN,  SENIOR   DIRECTOR  OF   TALENT  MANAGEMENT,                                                                    
ANCHORAGE SCHOOL  DISTRICT, ANCHORAGE  (via teleconference),                                                                    
reiterated  a  few  words shared  previously  by  Dr.  Deena                                                                    
Bishop regarding Senate Bill 20:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     This bill  provides the  needed flexibility  for school                                                                    
     districts at  just the  right time.  We have  fewer and                                                                    
     fewer going  into education across the  nation. This is                                                                    
     a very  important bill to  be able to  support incoming                                                                    
     teachers.  Senate Bill  20 provides  additional avenues                                                                    
     for school  districts to seek  and find  top educators.                                                                    
     Many   states  presently   allow  alternative   teacher                                                                    
     certification  pathways and  programs and  its not  the                                                                    
     traditional  university  setting  or  student  teaching                                                                    
     experience. They utilize a  blended approach to gaining                                                                    
     certification.  Many  of   these  include  co-teaching,                                                                    
     substituting,   on  the   job   training  and   they're                                                                    
     increasing in  popularity as one  in five  new teachers                                                                    
     in  the U.S.  become a  teacher through  a means  other                                                                    
     than  the traditional  four-year undergraduate  program                                                                    
     or master's degree in traditional universities.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Also,  second career  educators  are  more inclined  to                                                                    
     enter  into  the   alternative  certification  program.                                                                    
     These  alternative  path  educators  are  also  a  more                                                                    
     diverse as a whole.  They mirror their communities much                                                                    
     more   than   traditional   path  educators.   As   you                                                                    
     mentioned,  concerns  of  the  past  have  been  around                                                                    
     lowering  of AK  teacher certificate  standards. Please                                                                    
     know that that is not  the intent of this bill. Rather,                                                                    
     we choose to expand the candidate pool.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     We have  many immersion programs here  in the Anchorage                                                                    
     School  District   and  we  hire   many  out-of-country                                                                    
     educators.   Most  of   them  do   not  and   have  not                                                                    
     participated  in   the  traditional   student  teaching                                                                    
     world. This Senate  Bill 20 would allow for  a new out-                                                                    
     of-country  candidate  to   move  to  the  professional                                                                    
     certification.  Right  now,  they  can  only  have  the                                                                    
     initial  certification because  they  do  not have  the                                                                    
     student  teaching requirement,  which  would not  allow                                                                    
     them to move to the  professional and also often lessen                                                                    
     their stay in Alaska because  of that. This senate bill                                                                    
     allows the  time and  flexibility needed  to transition                                                                    
     to  Alaska with  a certificate  from another  state. We                                                                    
     continue to hold our standards,  but it does allow time                                                                    
     to   complete   those   Alaska-specific   certification                                                                    
     requirements. None of that goes away.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rankin  thanked the sponsors  of the bill  that directly                                                                    
and  deliberately responded  to the  needs of  Alaska school                                                                    
districts, schools, and students.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:35:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon  stated   that  the  Anchorage  School                                                                    
District  had quite  a  few school  buildings  and a  pretty                                                                    
sizeable number  of principals and assistant  principals. He                                                                    
asked if  the district was experiencing  the same challenges                                                                    
with  hiring  and  filling principal  positions  as  it  was                                                                    
having with hiring teacher positions.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Rankin  replied   that  most   often  the   district's                                                                    
principals  came   from  within  its  teacher   forces.  The                                                                    
district  tended  to  grow  its   own  principals  who  were                                                                    
familiar with  the curriculum. She relayed  the district did                                                                    
not   frequently   hire   principals   from   outside.   She                                                                    
highlighted  that applicant  pools  across  the nation  were                                                                    
reduced   in   all   teaching   professions.   Additionally,                                                                    
individuals were not entering programs at universities.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon agreed  with the  practice of  growing                                                                    
and developing your own. He  asked if the district was still                                                                    
experiencing  interest  from   instructors  on  seeking  out                                                                    
higher certification  to become  an assistant  principal and                                                                    
ultimately a principal.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Rankin  confirmed  there was  a  strong  interest.  She                                                                    
informed  the   committee  that   several  cohorts   of  the                                                                    
district's   teachers   were  involved   in   administrative                                                                    
programs to obtain their administrative certificates.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz  referred to  Ms. Rankin's  testimony about                                                                    
out-of-country candidates.  He asked  if the  candidates had                                                                    
the ability  to become  teachers in Alaska  entirely through                                                                    
the J-1 Visa program.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Rankin responded  that the  district was  not currently                                                                    
hiring out-of-country  teachers on J-1 Visas.  She explained                                                                    
that regardless  of their ability  to get a  certificate, it                                                                    
was  merely the  individual's status  to come  to Alaska  to                                                                    
work in the district, whether it  was through an H-1B or J-1                                                                    
Visa.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Ortiz  asked if  there  had  been a  significant                                                                    
increase in  the two aforementioned  visa programs  over the                                                                    
past  several years.  Alternatively,  he asked  if they  had                                                                    
always been used by the Anchorage School District.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Rankin  replied that  the  district  had recently  been                                                                    
speaking with  some smaller school  districts in  Alaska and                                                                    
working closely with DEED in  regard to what the various J-1                                                                    
Visa programs  and sponsorship looked  like. She  stated the                                                                    
J-1 requirements had  support components that had  to be put                                                                    
in place.  Currently, the  district was  hiring for  hard to                                                                    
fill positions.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Ortiz clarified  his question.  He asked  if the                                                                    
district had seen increased use  of the programs in the past                                                                    
several years.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rankin  replied that the  Anchorage School  District had                                                                    
only been using the process for several years.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:39:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TAMMIE PERREAULT, NORTHWEST  REGIONAL LIAISON, DEFENSE-STATE                                                                    
LIAISON  OFFICE,  OPERATING  UNDER THE  DIRECTION  OF  UNDER                                                                    
SECRETARY  OF  DEFENSE  FOR  PERSONNEL  AND  READINESS  (via                                                                    
teleconference), provided prepared remarks:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Our mission  is to be  resource to state  policy makers                                                                    
     like this committee  as you work to  address quality of                                                                    
     life  issues  for  military   families.  On  behalf  of                                                                    
     military families  and the  Department of  Defense, I'm                                                                    
     here  to   express  support  for  the   policy  changes                                                                    
     proposed  in  Senate  Bill  20,  a  bill  that  revises                                                                    
     teacher  licensure for  personnel entry  in Alaska  and                                                                    
     requiring  the  adoption   of  an  expedited  licensure                                                                    
     process for military spouses.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Perreault referenced  an earlier  question on  how many                                                                    
states  had  implemented  a  process   similar  to  the  one                                                                    
proposed under  the bill. She  shared that  specifically for                                                                    
military  spouses, about  30 states  had similar  processes.                                                                    
She continued to read from prepared remarks:                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     The process  for teachers licensed  in other  states to                                                                    
     become  fully  licensed  in a  new  state  can  require                                                                    
     extensive   documentation,   additional   testing   and                                                                    
     coursework,  and  may  involve  application  processing                                                                    
     delays  that  create   further  barriers  for  military                                                                    
     spouse teachers to seamlessly  continue on their career                                                                    
     paths. Policies  such as those  contained in  this bill                                                                    
     will contribute to the  morale, economic stability, and                                                                    
     well-being  of our  military  families.  As a  military                                                                    
     spouse myself, I cannot tell  you the number of times I                                                                    
     have talked to fellow  military spouses who have simply                                                                    
     chosen  not to  teach in  a state  where they  moved to                                                                    
     because of the rigorous  challenges of getting licensed                                                                    
     even  though  they  may have  held  years  of  teaching                                                                    
     experience  and  multiple  teaching  certificates  from                                                                    
     across the nation.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Teaching  is  one  of the  most  prevalent  professions                                                                    
     among  our  licensed  military spouses  and  while  our                                                                    
     society  is becoming  more  mobile,  the percentage  of                                                                    
     military  spouse  population  that moves  across  state                                                                    
     lines is over  14 percent annually, compared  to only 1                                                                    
     percent  for  civilian  spouses;   88  percent  of  our                                                                    
     military spouses report  they want or need  to work. We                                                                    
     appreciate  the  tremendous  efforts  that  Alaska  has                                                                    
     historically  made  to  support  our  military  service                                                                    
     members and  their families. We're grateful  to Senator                                                                    
     Stevens  and to  the  work of  his  staff for  bringing                                                                    
     forth this important piece of legislation.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:43:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   LeBon   remarked  that   military   spouses                                                                    
benefited  various sectors  including teaching  and banking.                                                                    
He  remarked that  experience in  the  banking industry  was                                                                    
very  transferable. He  recalled  that at  one  time he  had                                                                    
three  commercial loan  processors who  were all  married to                                                                    
military  members. He  stated that  it was  possible to  say                                                                    
there  was  risk of  losing  the  employees; however,  while                                                                    
stationed  in  Alaska  the employees  were  loyal  with  low                                                                    
turnover. He added that in  many cases their tenure with the                                                                    
bank was longer than a  non-military employee. He liked that                                                                    
the bill  aimed to do  something about the  teacher shortage                                                                    
"in this manner." He thanked Ms. Perreault for calling in.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick  thanked Ms.  Perreault for  testifying and                                                                    
emphasized  that the  committee members  loved the  military                                                                    
families living in Alaska.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Ortiz  asked  for   the  names  of  the  teacher                                                                    
competency exams currently being used in Alaska.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Meredith  replied that  the  state  primarily used  the                                                                    
practice  exam offered  by the  Educational Testing  Service                                                                    
(ETS). The department had a list  of a number of other tests                                                                    
accepted  across the  country such  as the  Washington-based                                                                    
skills  test  called  the WEST-B  and  the  California  test                                                                    
called CBEST. Additionally, the  department honored the SAT,                                                                    
ACT, and GRE and a number of state-specific exams.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz  asked if Ms.  Meredith had listed  the SAT                                                                    
for teacher competency.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Meredith  responded  that the  competency  exam  was  a                                                                    
reading,  writing, and  math exam  and portions  of the  SAT                                                                    
could be  used. She noted  there was an  established minimum                                                                    
test score for that purpose.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz asked if the  type of competency exams used                                                                    
was at the discretion of  the local school districts as long                                                                    
as the exam was state approved.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Meredith answered that all  of the information had to be                                                                    
part  of a  teacher's file  with DEED.  The only  exams that                                                                    
could be used were those approved by the state board.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick thanked the testifiers and presenter.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CSSB 20(FIN)  was HEARD  and HELD  in committee  for further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:47:35 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:06:05 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 283                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act   making  appropriations,   including  capital                                                                    
     appropriations,     reappropriations,     and     other                                                                    
     appropriations;  making   supplemental  appropriations;                                                                    
     and providing for an effective date."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:06:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Merrick relayed  that  public  testimony would  be                                                                    
taken from  4:00 p.m.  to 6:00 p.m.  She provided  the email                                                                    
address and call-in numbers.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^PUBLIC TESTIMONY                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:06:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRYAN  HAWKINS,  CITY OF  HOMER  AND  ALASKA ASSOCIATION  OF                                                                    
HARBOR   MASTERS   &    PORT   ADMINISTRATOR,   HOMER   (via                                                                    
teleconference),  supported  the  $750,000  in  the  capital                                                                    
budget to complete the U.S.  Army Corps of Engineers general                                                                    
investigation  for  Homer's   large  vessel  port  expansion                                                                    
project.  He highlighted  the  funding  was important  match                                                                    
funding of  $750,000 set aside by  the City of Homer  and it                                                                    
would  leverage $1.5  million in  federal  funds. He  shared                                                                    
that  the  Kenai  Peninsula   Borough  Assembly  and  Alaska                                                                    
federal  delegation were  aligned in  their support  for the                                                                    
project.  The   project  was  the  district's   top  capital                                                                    
priority.   Additionally,   he   urged   full   funding   of                                                                    
$20,160,000  for  the  Municipal Harbor  Grant  Program.  He                                                                    
stated  that  the program  was  an  equitable and  effective                                                                    
mechanism for completing deferred maintenance projects.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:08:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRUCE  FRIEND, SELF,  HOMER (via  teleconference), testified                                                                    
in support  of the  bill. He  shared that  he was  an active                                                                    
member of  the Homer Marine Trades  Association. He provided                                                                    
information  about the  organization.  The organization  was                                                                    
intimately involved in  the expansion of the  harbor; it was                                                                    
an  extremely important  addition  to the  current port.  He                                                                    
emphasized the  need for the  harbor expansion. He  noted it                                                                    
would  bring   commerce  to  the  area   and  would  provide                                                                    
alternate port  capability in the  event of a  disruption in                                                                    
traffic in Cook Inlet.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:11:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JON  ERICKSON, CITY  MANAGER, YAKUTAT  (via teleconference),                                                                    
thanked the committee  for its work in the  current year. He                                                                    
had   seen   significant   progress.  He   highlighted   the                                                                    
community's PFAS problem. He shared  that he had spoken with                                                                    
the Department  of Environmental Conservation (DEC)  and the                                                                    
Congressional delegation to get PFAS  funded to take care of                                                                    
the airport.  He spoke  to the  importance of  funding sewer                                                                    
and water  projects. He  spoke in  support of  the Municipal                                                                    
Harbor Grant Program.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:13:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BAL   DREYFUS,  MATSON,   ANCHORAGE  (via   teleconference),                                                                    
thanked  the committee  for the  opportunity to  testify. He                                                                    
detailed  that  Matson was  a  leading  ocean carrier  cargo                                                                    
providing  lifeline  services  to three  Alaskan  ports.  He                                                                    
requested  the  committee's  support   for  Port  of  Alaska                                                                    
funding. He stated that the  port received 50 percent of the                                                                    
state's incoming  goods that 90  percent of  Alaskans relied                                                                    
on.  He spoke  to  various communities  that  relied on  the                                                                    
shipments.  He   stressed  that   the  port  was   the  only                                                                    
Southcentral Alaska facility  with waterfront infrastructure                                                                    
and workforce  to support  the cargo  needs. He  shared that                                                                    
port  users,   the  Municipality   of  Anchorage,   and  the                                                                    
Anchorage Assembly were aligned  in support for the project.                                                                    
He highlighted various support for  the project. He stressed                                                                    
the need  to fund  the state's most  critical infrastructure                                                                    
projects.  He supported  a  $200  million appropriation  and                                                                    
$200 million in matching funds  as currently outlined in the                                                                    
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Rasmussen stated  there was  another version                                                                    
of a  budget bill  that included $25  million for  the port.                                                                    
She asked if it would  be a sufficient contribution from the                                                                    
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Dreyfus replied in the negative.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:16:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BOB  SCANLON,  CEO, BLOOD  BANK  OF  ALASKA, ANCHORAGE  (via                                                                    
teleconference), thanked the committee  for the Blood Bank's                                                                    
inclusion  in   the  budget.  He  requested   a  $3  million                                                                    
increment  in the  capital budget.  He  stated that  funding                                                                    
would allow  the blood bank  to end a  serious vulnerability                                                                    
to Alaska's  blood supply  by making  the blood  bank wholly                                                                    
self-sufficient. He  detailed that  the funds would  be used                                                                    
to create instate donor testing  and laboratory services. He                                                                    
shared that donor testing currently  done out of state was a                                                                    
substantial bottleneck  and ongoing  dangerous vulnerability                                                                    
for the  state, impacting  blood supply  operations, routine                                                                    
operations, medical trauma, and/or  states of emergency.  He                                                                    
spoke to other  benefits of instate donor  testing and self-                                                                    
sufficiency.  Self-sufficiency would  assure predictability,                                                                    
consistency, versatility, and shorter  response times in the                                                                    
event of disaster.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz asked if the  blood bank had received funds                                                                    
in the capital budget in the past.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Scanlon  replied  that  the  blood  bank  had  received                                                                    
appropriations  in  the past  for  the  construction of  the                                                                    
Blood Center in Anchorage.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:19:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MIKE BROWN,  SELF, PALMER (via  teleconference), appreciated                                                                    
state support for the Arctic  Winter Games. He stated that a                                                                    
$1  million  appropriation  would assist  with  hosting  the                                                                    
games.  He supported  a  request  for transportation  system                                                                    
funding.  He  shared  that  the  assembly  had  put  several                                                                    
transportation projects  before voters, which  were approved                                                                    
by  a nearly  two to  one  margin. The  city was  requesting                                                                    
state  support  as  the  borough  had  already  appropriated                                                                    
several million dollars to the  projects. He detailed it was                                                                    
a  way for  the state  to  partner with  a local  government                                                                    
match. He  shared that  a 50 percent  match would  total $30                                                                    
million.  The  city  would appreciate  consideration  of  an                                                                    
increment of  at least $20 million.  The borough appreciated                                                                    
the  inclusion  of  funds for  a  first  responder  training                                                                    
facility.  The assembly  had  already appropriated  matching                                                                    
funding. He asked  the committee to continue  to support the                                                                    
request. He thanked the committee for its service.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:21:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DOUGLAS   OLERUD,   MAYOR,  HAINES   (via   teleconference),                                                                    
testified  in  support  of the  Haines  Borough  Lutak  dock                                                                    
rehabilitation  project. He  shared that  the community  had                                                                    
received a $20  million federal grant that  was dependent on                                                                    
a  20  percent  match.  The borough  had  put  $2.4  million                                                                    
towards  a  long  awaited  overhaul of  the  dock  that  was                                                                    
crumbling and had holes in  the concrete decking. All of the                                                                    
fuel and freight  for the community arrived at  the dock. He                                                                    
provided detail on the request  for $3.2 million to complete                                                                    
the  match for  the  shovel ready  project.  He thanked  the                                                                    
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Rasmussen reviewed  the numbers  provided by                                                                    
Mr. Olerud.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Olerud replied affirmatively.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:23:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
EDNA   DEVRIES,   MAYOR,   MAT-SU   BOROUGH,   PALMER   (via                                                                    
teleconference),  thanked the  legislature for  including $1                                                                    
million  for  the  Arctic  Winter  Games.  She  thanked  the                                                                    
legislature  for funding  for the  first responder  training                                                                    
facility. She  spoke to the  importance of  proper training.                                                                    
She  requested additional  funds for  transportation project                                                                    
package  that the  voters approved  two to  one in  a recent                                                                    
election. The borough had already  contributed 27 percent of                                                                    
the  total  amount. She  spoke  to  the importance  of  road                                                                    
improvements  to  handle  increased traffic  resulting  from                                                                    
population growth.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:26:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CARA   DURR,   FOOD   BANK   OF   ALASKA,   ANCHORAGE   (via                                                                    
teleconference),  spoke   in  support  of  items   for  food                                                                    
security in  Alaska. She highlighted  that between  years of                                                                    
lean  budgets  and  a  pandemic the  Food  Bank  saw  record                                                                    
numbers of  Alaskans in need  of its services.  She reported                                                                    
that  the  state's food  bank  and  food pantry  system  was                                                                    
strained. She stressed that a  dramatic spike in costs drove                                                                    
increased  need  and   operational  challenges.  The  budget                                                                    
request would go  far in addressing the  problems. The funds                                                                    
would address critical capital  needs such as refrigeration,                                                                    
vehicles,  space modifications,  and other.  The investments                                                                    
would  increase  the  organization's ability  to  distribute                                                                    
food.  She  provided   additional  program  information  and                                                                    
benefits. She appreciated the committee's consideration.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Rasmussen asked  if Ms. Durr saw  the Port of                                                                    
Alaska as an area that  could jeopardize food security if it                                                                    
was not addressed.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Durr replied  affirmatively. She  shared that  the Food                                                                    
Bank  received  much  of  its food  through  the  port.  The                                                                    
organization  was in  support  of funding  for  the Port  of                                                                    
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:28:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN   HANDELAND,   MAYOR,   CITY   OF   NOME,   NOME   (via                                                                    
teleconference), spoke  in favor of  the Port of  Nome state                                                                    
matching  funds.  He  stressed  that  matching  funding  was                                                                    
needed  immediately,   and  any  delay  risked   losing  the                                                                    
opportunity to  build the  port. He  detailed that  the U.S.                                                                    
Army  Corps of  Engineers released  $250 million  in federal                                                                    
dollars. He provided detail about  the project and work done                                                                    
to bring it  to fruition. He shared that  Nome's economy was                                                                    
struggling.  He stated  that the  port would  have long-term                                                                    
economic benefits to  the region. He spoke  to other sectors                                                                    
that would benefit.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:31:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SARAH KATHRYN  BRYAN, SELF, ANCHORAGE  (via teleconference),                                                                    
spoke  in  support of  the  AWAIC  shelter and  transitional                                                                    
living renovation  projects for  a 67-bed  emergency shelter                                                                    
and 10-bed  transitional housing program. The  project would                                                                    
impact  the  lives  of hundreds  of  victims  escaping  from                                                                    
abusive  situations.  She  spoke  about  the  organization's                                                                    
mission to  provide shelter for  female and male  victims of                                                                    
domestic  violence and  sexual  assault.  The shelter  would                                                                    
save lives. The increment was  for $347,000. She thanked the                                                                    
committee for its consideration.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:32:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DIANNE HOLMES,  SELF, ANCHORAGE (via  teleconference), spoke                                                                    
in support  of funding  for the Port  of Alaska.  She stated                                                                    
that the  port served  most of  Alaska. She  emphasized that                                                                    
other projects  would cost more for  materials and equipment                                                                    
if the port project did not  occur. She stated that the port                                                                    
deserved to be  funded at a higher level than  the level she                                                                    
had  heard was  in the  budget. She  asked the  committee to                                                                    
support the port's replacement.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Rasmussen  stated that  the House  version of                                                                    
the  bill  included  $200  million   with  $200  million  in                                                                    
matching funds. She believed the  other body had $25 million                                                                    
for the project  in its version of the budget.  She asked if                                                                    
Ms.  Holmes believed  $25 million  was  insufficient or  the                                                                    
$200 million was insufficient.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Holmes stated  that $200 million was not  adequate for a                                                                    
$1 billion project.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Merrick  replied  that the  budget  included  $200                                                                    
million  in  addition to  up  to  $200 million  in  matching                                                                    
funds. If the  federal funds were secured,  the amount would                                                                    
be up  to $600 million. She  noted the $600 million  was the                                                                    
original request.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:35:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JASON    LESSARD,    NAMI    ANCHORAGE,    ANCHORAGE    (via                                                                    
teleconference), provided details  about his affiliation and                                                                    
work with  various entities. He  supported $1.5  million for                                                                    
Careline Alaska  to rebuild  its facility.  He spoke  to the                                                                    
effectiveness of  the Careline component. He  stated that 90                                                                    
percent of  the calls  could be handled  at the  call center                                                                    
level and did not require  any additional response. He asked                                                                    
the   committee  to   consider   adding  behavioral   health                                                                    
treatment capacity funding.  He stated it had  been a number                                                                    
of years since the continuum  of care had received an influx                                                                    
of cash  for capital  improvements. He  spoke in  support of                                                                    
funding for  the Port of  Alaska. He stressed that  the port                                                                    
was in  dire need  and the  state depended  on the  port for                                                                    
food security.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick  clarified that the House  version included                                                                    
$1.5 million for the Careline.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon  stated  that  approximately  $275,000                                                                    
would likely  be sufficient as  Careline was not  looking to                                                                    
purchase a building currently.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:38:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARGARET HENSON,  NORTHWEST ARCTIC BOROUGH  SCHOOL DISTRICT,                                                                    
KOTZEBUE (via  teleconference), spoke in favor  of money for                                                                    
the  Alaska  Technical  Center student/family  housing.  She                                                                    
provided  detail about  the  district.  The center  provided                                                                    
training  in  construction,   health  occupations,  culinary                                                                    
arts,  and  technology. The  Red  Dog  Mine and  the  Ambler                                                                    
mining  belt was  located  in the  region.  She shared  that                                                                    
employment opportunities  in the  region frequently  went to                                                                    
non-local  individuals.  She   elaborated  that  while  many                                                                    
residents desired  to obtain certification to  pursue career                                                                    
opportunities,  the   individuals  were   having  difficulty                                                                    
securing  necessary housing  while  attending training.  She                                                                    
requested $1.2 million for the  project. They were confident                                                                    
other funding partners would be available.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:42:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PAUL  OSTRANDER, CITY  MANAGER, KENAI  (via teleconference),                                                                    
thanked the committee for the  inclusion of $6.5 million for                                                                    
the  Kenai River  bluff  stabilization  project. He  thanked                                                                    
Representative Carpenter and  Co-Chair Merrick for including                                                                    
the  increment.  He  detailed  that  the  funding  would  be                                                                    
combined  with $5.25  million from  the City  of Kenai.  The                                                                    
funds would be leveraged with  $22 million to $23 million of                                                                    
federal funding.  It had  been a  top priority  capital need                                                                    
for  at least  30  years  and was  a  critical  step in  the                                                                    
revitalization  of  oldtown  Kenai,  which was  an  area  of                                                                    
cultural  and historical  significance.  There  had been  no                                                                    
capital investing  in the  area for  at least  three decades                                                                    
and the  bluff continued  to erode  at three  feet annually.                                                                    
The  project  would  stabilize the  bluff.  He  thanked  the                                                                    
committee for the opportunity to testify.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:44:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROBIN  MINARD,   MAT-SU  HEALTH  FOUNDATION,   WASILLA  (via                                                                    
teleconference),  asked for  additional  funding to  support                                                                    
behavioral  health  treatment  capacity. She  spoke  to  the                                                                    
importance  in access  to healthcare.  The funding  would be                                                                    
needed  even in  normal times;  however, life  post-COVID-19                                                                    
was  anything but  normal. She  highlighted examples.  There                                                                    
was  more need  now  more than  ever  for behavioral  health                                                                    
support. She thanked the committee.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:45:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KELLY  LESSENS,  ANCHORAGE   SCHOOL  BOARD,  ANCHORAGE  (via                                                                    
teleconference),  highlighted  the   district's  backlog  in                                                                    
deferred   maintenance,  which   exceeded  more   than  $800                                                                    
million.   She  supported   the  $100   million  for   major                                                                    
maintenance in  the capital budget.  She stated  the funding                                                                    
would  allow the  district  to move  forward  on updates  to                                                                    
enable children to attend school in safe conditions.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Rasmussen  asked if the board  had a position                                                                    
on the Port of Alaska.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lessens  answered that  it was  not something  the board                                                                    
had  engaged with.  She noted  that the  district's supplies                                                                    
came in  and out of  the port. She referenced  food security                                                                    
and  supplies for  capital projects  that  came through  the                                                                    
port.  She   personally  supported  action  on   securing  a                                                                    
functional port.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Rasmussen asked  how many  students received                                                                    
meals through the district.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Lessens answered  that more than half  of the district's                                                                    
students were  economically disadvantaged. She  believed all                                                                    
children  were eligible  for meals  nationwide. She  did not                                                                    
have the  exact figures,  but she could  follow up  with the                                                                    
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:49:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HEIDI HILL,  SELF, ANCHORAGE (via teleconference),  spoke in                                                                    
support  of $347,000  for AWAIC's  shelter and  transitional                                                                    
living  renovation  project.  She highlighted  the  terrible                                                                    
rates of  domestic violence in  Alaska. She  provided detail                                                                    
about  the existing  shelter. She  stated  that the  shelter                                                                    
provided housing  for domestic  violence and  sexual assault                                                                    
victims. She saw the impact of  the programs on the lives of                                                                    
individuals on a  daily basis. She relayed  that the repairs                                                                    
would be  significant in terms  of support for  victims. She                                                                    
appreciated the committee's support.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:50:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRENDA  MOORE, SELF,  ANCHORAGE (via  teleconference), asked                                                                    
for support  of $11 million for  behavioral health treatment                                                                    
capacity.   Needs   had   risen   and   the   pandemic   had                                                                    
substantially impacted  behavioral health, yet  the capacity                                                                    
to  treat   behavioral  health  in   Alaska  had   not  seen                                                                    
significant investment.  She thanked  the committee  for its                                                                    
commitment to Alaskans.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:52:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVID KARP, SALTCHUK,  ANCHORAGE (via teleconference), spoke                                                                    
in  support   of  funding  for   the  Port  of   Alaska.  He                                                                    
represented  multiple port  users. He  believed there  was a                                                                    
significant  role for  the  state,  federal government,  and                                                                    
users to  cover funding  for the infrastructure  project. He                                                                    
had  witnessed  multiple starts  and  stops  on the  project                                                                    
during his three  years on the project. He  stated that each                                                                    
iteration of  the project  over the  years resulted  in lost                                                                    
time and additional  expense. They reached a  moment in time                                                                    
where there was an agreed  upon scope of work, timeline, and                                                                    
price.  He  implored parties  to  understand  that each  day                                                                    
wasted created  additional exposure for the  majority of the                                                                    
state's population  as it pertained  to the potential  for a                                                                    
catastrophic  failure  of  the  existing  facility.  It  was                                                                    
critical  infrastructure  that  was currently  at  risk.  He                                                                    
urged support of funding in HB 283.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:54:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ERIC  WYATT,  PRESIDENT,  ALASKA MARICULTURE  ALLIANCE  (via                                                                    
teleconference), testified in support  of a one-time funding                                                                    
request  for a  mariculture  matching grant  program with  a                                                                    
goal  to  double  private investment.  He  shared  that  the                                                                    
program was supported by existing  farmers and new entrants.                                                                    
Product demand had increased  substantially in recent years.                                                                    
He  spoke to  the demand  for shellfish.  The program  would                                                                    
allow the disbursement of  funds to opportunities maximizing                                                                    
industry growth in the future.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Ortiz  asked about  the  amount  of the  funding                                                                    
request.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Wyatt replied  that the original ask was  $25 million in                                                                    
the governor's budget request.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:56:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GALE VANDOR, SELF, JUNEAU  (via teleconference), thanked the                                                                    
committee  for  including  funding   for  the  United  Human                                                                    
Services Teal Street center.  She strongly supported service                                                                    
coordination in  one building ensure  comprehensive planning                                                                    
to  provide  assistance  to people  with  disabilities  that                                                                    
would enable them to remain  in their homes and communities.                                                                    
Services  would also  be made  available to  patrons of  the                                                                    
Glory Hall. She highlighted the  resource room in the center                                                                    
that  would   enhance  services  for  disabled   persons  in                                                                    
Southeast.  She  provided  details   about  the  center  and                                                                    
clinic. The  project had been in  the works for more  than a                                                                    
decade. She appreciated the committee's time and attention.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:59:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KURT   BUCHHOLZ,   SELF,  SOLDOTNA   (via   teleconference),                                                                    
supported the Blood Bank of  Alaska funds to build a testing                                                                    
lab.  He was  a practicing  physician and  had been  a Blood                                                                    
Bank  medical director  for  several  facilities. He  shared                                                                    
information about  his work with  the Blood Bank.  The Blood                                                                    
Bank provided sufficient  blood to handle trauma  and it had                                                                    
been  a  great  partner responding  to  facilities'  medical                                                                    
needs.  The  two  elements  that  were  incomplete  included                                                                    
performing testing  on all  of the  blood units  and testing                                                                    
blood in the current environment  was the safest it had ever                                                                    
been. He spoke to the  importance of reference labs in rural                                                                    
communities. Moving  the work to  Anchorage would  provide a                                                                    
quicker  response in  critical situations  in order  to give                                                                    
the proper, compatible blood.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:01:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VIRGIE  THOMPSON,  MAYOR,  CITY  OF  HOUSTON,  HOUSTON  (via                                                                    
teleconference),  requested the  inclusion  of  the city  of                                                                    
Houston's  installation of  a  natural  gasline, which  also                                                                    
included  the   extension  of  power  to   areas  that  were                                                                    
currently  off-grid.  The  project would  provide  safe  and                                                                    
cost-effective heating fuel for  residents and would improve                                                                    
the cost of  living for all impacted  residents. The request                                                                    
was   for  $993,410.   She  asked   for   support  for   the                                                                    
construction  of   a  commercial  building  to   house  fire                                                                    
department and  public works  supplies, which  would provide                                                                    
fire  protection to  surrounding areas.  She supported  $1.2                                                                    
million  for  the  Houston  school's  campus  paved  walking                                                                    
bicycle pathway. She provided detail  on the benefits of the                                                                    
pathway.  She spoke  in  support of  $723,000  for Bear  Paw                                                                    
activities park recreational area.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Rasmussen  asked   how  much   Houston  had                                                                    
contributed towards the requests.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Thompson  answered that the  community currently  had no                                                                    
contributions  to  the natural  gas  project.  She added  it                                                                    
would  be shovel  ready because  there was  only institution                                                                    
installing natural gas. The city  owned the property for the                                                                    
fire station.  The community did not  have any contributions                                                                    
for  the pathway,  and it  owned  the property  and had  the                                                                    
design phase completed for the activities park.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Josephson   referenced  the   natural   gas                                                                    
infrastructure with a cost of $993,000.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Thompson agreed  that  it would  cost  $993,410 to  put                                                                    
natural  gas in  three  sections of  the  city, which  would                                                                    
affect approximately 600 people.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson asked  how much  the fire  station                                                                    
cost was.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Thompson answered, "$2.5 million."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Johnson thanked Ms. Thompson for calling in.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Thompson  added  her   support  for  behavioral  health                                                                    
funding. She shared  it took her granddaughter  17 hours for                                                                    
intake when she had extreme need.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
5:06:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRYAN  HAUGSEAD,  AWAIC,   ANCHORAGE  (via  teleconference),                                                                    
supported  funding for  AWAIC,  which gave  critical aid  to                                                                    
victims  of domestic  violence.  He asked  the committee  to                                                                    
support the request the renovation  of the AWAIC facilities.                                                                    
He encouraged funding  for the Blood Bank of  Alaska. He had                                                                    
personally had to  leave the state for medical  care and the                                                                    
funding would be significant for everyone in Alaska.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:07:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CLAY BEZENEK,  SELF, KETCHIKAN (via  teleconference), shared                                                                    
a food  safety and biological  issue had been  identified in                                                                    
the fall. He  had been working with Vice-Chair  Ortiz on the                                                                    
issue. He  requested support for  a remote  operated vehicle                                                                    
(ROV) that went to a depth  of 200 meters that would be used                                                                    
to survey rockfish stocks in  Southeast Alaska. Rockfish was                                                                    
an important food staple for  the community. He relayed that                                                                    
the ROV  would be used  to survey  from Sitka to  the inside                                                                    
waters of Ketchikan. There was  currently one ROV located in                                                                    
Homer that was  only available for Southeast  for three days                                                                    
per year.  He noted  the community was  not attached  to the                                                                    
road  system  and  if  there was  a  calamitous  event,  the                                                                    
community would need to harvest out of the ocean.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Ortiz asked  about the  current status  of local                                                                    
residents'  ability  to  harvest  rockfish.  He  stated  his                                                                    
understanding it was limited.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bezenek answered that they  could not harvest any yellow                                                                    
eye rockfish  in Ketchikan.  He detailed  that the  Board of                                                                    
Fish  had  recently  discussed  the  issue  extensively.  He                                                                    
shared that it  had been a crushing blow to  the economy and                                                                    
food safety.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz asked what the ROV would cost.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bezenek  replied  it  was a  $250,000  purchase  for  a                                                                    
machine that  would last  about 10  years. He  detailed that                                                                    
the  Department  of  Fish  and   Game  would  come  up  with                                                                    
surveying costs for the first  year. He remarked that if the                                                                    
issue would have  been identified sooner it  would have been                                                                    
included in  the budget in  a different way.  He appreciated                                                                    
the support.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:11:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PATRICK MAYER, SUPERINTENDENT,  ALEUTIAN EAST BOROUGH SCHOOL                                                                    
DISTRICT,  SAND  POINT  (via  teleconference),  thanked  the                                                                    
committee for its continued support  of education in Alaska.                                                                    
He  supported  school  bond debt  reimbursement  and  school                                                                    
major maintenance.  He shared that the  funding would enable                                                                    
districts  to  improve  aging school  buildings  and  ensure                                                                    
students had  a safe school environment.  He highlighted the                                                                    
increase in  cost. The  district had  a structural  roof and                                                                    
foundation  repairs to  bring it  up to  ADA compliance.  He                                                                    
thanked the committee for making children a priority.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz thanked Mr. Mayer.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
5:12:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHUCK  HOMAN,   SELF,  EAGLE  RIVER   (via  teleconference),                                                                    
testified in support of $1.5  million for the Starner Bridge                                                                    
replacement. The  funding for maintaining and  repairing the                                                                    
roads was  through local property  taxes. He  explained that                                                                    
the taxes  were split  between road maintenance  and capital                                                                    
projects.  He  relayed  the  Starner   Bridge  was  in  poor                                                                    
condition with a  rating of three tons.  There were concerns                                                                    
the bridge would  be closed by the bridge  inspector and the                                                                    
homes served by  the bridge would be completely  cut off. He                                                                    
elaborated  that   the  bridge  was  currently   unsafe  for                                                                    
emergency  vehicles.  Funding  the bridge  replacement  with                                                                    
entirely  local  funds would  wipe  out  the city's  capital                                                                    
projects budget for the year.  He relayed that $1 million in                                                                    
local tax dollars had been  approved. He urged the committee                                                                    
to include the $1.5 million.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:14:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOAN  O'KEEFE, UNITED  HUMAN SERVICES  OF SOUTHEAST  ALASKA,                                                                    
JUNEAU  (via teleconference),  spoke in  support of  funding                                                                    
for the  Teal Street center  social services hub  in Juneau.                                                                    
She   detailed  that   the  center   would  collocate   nine                                                                    
organizations  in  a  hub  to   serve  seniors,  low  income                                                                    
individuals,  and  people   with  disabilities.  She  listed                                                                    
various tenants. The  center would also host  providers in a                                                                    
in  a resource  room to  provide tools  including employment                                                                    
services,  mental health  education, legal  resources, youth                                                                    
mentoring,  housing navigation,  and disability  access. She                                                                    
provided   additional   details   about  the   center.   The                                                                    
investment  came  at a  critical  point  in the  fundraising                                                                    
effort. She  highlighted escalated costs. The  total project                                                                    
had  increased to  over $10  million. She  supported a  $3.7                                                                    
million increment.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:16:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRANDON CALCATERRA, SELF,  EAGLE RIVER (via teleconference),                                                                    
testified  in  support  of $100  million  for  school  major                                                                    
maintenance  and  previous  funding  for  school  bond  debt                                                                    
reimbursement.  He  stressed  the funding  was  critical  to                                                                    
ensure students  had functional  facilities. He  thanked the                                                                    
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:17:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOY BAKER,  CITY OF NOME,  NOME (via  teleconference), spoke                                                                    
in  support  of $175  million  for  the  Port of  Nome.  The                                                                    
funding  was needed  to match  the $250  million Army  Corps                                                                    
funding  that would  construct the  only  Arctic deep  draft                                                                    
port  in the  country. She  spoke to  the importance  of the                                                                    
Arctic  port.  She  highlighted the  benefits  of  the  port                                                                    
including  food security,  environmental safety,  scientific                                                                    
research, national security, and  other. The current ability                                                                    
to meet the  needs in the Arctic were  currently marginal at                                                                    
best. She  stated there  were currently  serious limitations                                                                    
for providing response capacity  for spill response and life                                                                    
safety.  She listed  additional  benefits of  the port.  She                                                                    
spoke  to  developing  resilient and  stable  infrastructure                                                                    
necessary  to  support  the  national  security  fleet.  The                                                                    
increment  was  required  by  the  corps.  She  thanked  the                                                                    
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:21:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JULIE  DECKER,  ALASKA   FISHERIES  DEVELOPMENT  FOUNDATION,                                                                    
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, WRANGELL  (via teleconference), spoke in                                                                    
strong support for a $25  million mariculture matching grant                                                                    
program  included  in  the governor's  capital  budget.  She                                                                    
discussed   that   mariculture    would   benefit   Alaska's                                                                    
communities,  environment, and  economy. She  highlighted it                                                                    
was an  opportunity to  grow a  new industry.  Investing $25                                                                    
million in state  funds was a wise investment  that would be                                                                    
returned to  the state  through increased  economic activity                                                                    
for years to  come. The funds would  increase the trajectory                                                                    
of  the   industry  growth.  She  reviewed   various  growth                                                                    
scenarios that depended on government investment.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
5:23:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUSANNE  MARCHUK,   EXECUTIVE  DIRECTOR,   ALASKA  CARELINE,                                                                    
FAIRBANKS (via  teleconference), shared that she  had been a                                                                    
part of Careline for 16  years. She shared that Careline had                                                                    
been a frontline of defense  for Alaska's crisis care system                                                                    
for  nearly  20  years  offering a  statewide  resource  for                                                                    
Alaska's most  vulnerable. She  highlighted the  benefits of                                                                    
the  program. The  entity was  the  only designated  suicide                                                                    
lifeline  contact  center in  Alaska.  She  shared that  the                                                                    
center  would begin  receiving 988  contacts  in July  2022.                                                                    
Projections  predicted nearly  45,000  contracts  in FY  23,                                                                    
which was  a substantial increase. She  shared that Careline                                                                    
reduced  the  burden  on  law   enforcement,  EMS,  and  the                                                                    
judicial system. She highlighted  a lease agreement secured.                                                                    
She  believed it  was in  the  best interest  to purchase  a                                                                    
building. She thanked the committee.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:26:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LAURA LANN,  SELF, ANCHORAGE (via teleconference),  spoke in                                                                    
support  of  $347,000  for  the  AWAIC  transitional  living                                                                    
renovation  project.  The  project   was  important  to  the                                                                    
community  because it  provided critical  renovation to  the                                                                    
67-bed  emergency shelter  and  10-bed transitional  housing                                                                    
facilities. She shared  that AWAIC was the  only provider of                                                                    
emergency  shelter  and  transitional housing  for  domestic                                                                    
violence  victims  in  Anchorage. The  funds  would  address                                                                    
multiple  issues  throughout  the shelter  and  transitional                                                                    
living facilities. She thanked the committee.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:27:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JAN CAROLYN  HARDY, STATE PRESIDENT, AFSCME,  ANCHORAGE (via                                                                    
teleconference), supported the proposal  for a spending cap,                                                                    
protection  of   the  Permanent  Fund,  and   energy  relief                                                                    
payments concurrent with the payment  of the PFD. She stated                                                                    
that  the  budget  reversed  cuts  to  human  services.  She                                                                    
discussed  that  public  health  services  had  become  more                                                                    
significant  and necessary  over the  past couple  of years.                                                                    
She discussed the  need for long-term care  for dementia and                                                                    
Alzheimer's patients. She listed  other health related needs                                                                    
for individuals with  developmental disabilities, behavioral                                                                    
health treatment, substance abuse  treatment, and other. She                                                                    
supported the  inclusion of funds  for education  and school                                                                    
bond debt reimbursement.  She spoke in support  of Pre-K and                                                                    
WWAMI.  She spoke  in support  of  funding for  the Port  of                                                                    
Alaska.  She   stated  the  port  was   critical  to  Arctic                                                                    
commerce. She supported funding for the Port of Nome.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Rasmussen thanked  Ms.  Hardy's comments  in                                                                    
support of the items.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:30:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HEATHER MCCARTY, CENTRAL  BEARING SEA FISHERMAN ASSOCIATION,                                                                    
JUNEAU (via teleconference), spoke  in support of $5 million                                                                    
for the mariculture matching  grant program. She highlighted                                                                    
the original  request for  the program  was $25  million and                                                                    
she  believed   it  could  successfully   support  continued                                                                    
mariculture growth and development  in Alaska. She requested                                                                    
an  increased amount  allocated to  the program.  She stated                                                                    
that fully  funding the program would  provide stability and                                                                    
potentially for shellfish enhancement.  She stated that crab                                                                    
had  suffered over  the  past  several years  and  was in  a                                                                    
disastrous situation. She  provided detail about legislation                                                                    
that was working to help.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:33:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVE  BRONSON, MAYOR,  MUNICIPALITY OF  ANCHORAGE, ANCHORAGE                                                                    
(via teleconference),  testified in  support of the  Port of                                                                    
Alaska and  deep water  Port of Nome.  He stressed  that the                                                                    
projects  were critical  to the  prosperity and  security of                                                                    
Alaskans. He stated that the  ability to raise federal funds                                                                    
for  the port  was  directly related  to  the state  funding                                                                    
secured. He supported  the HB 283 increments  for the ports.                                                                    
He stated failing  to finance the Port of  Alaska, the state                                                                    
would  face a  humanitarian crisis  if there  was a  seismic                                                                    
event. He supported the $200  million appropriation with the                                                                    
$200 million match for the Port of Anchorage.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz asked  if a spending plan  had already been                                                                    
submitted in regard to how $200 million would be used.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ROSS  RISVOLD,  FINANCE  OFFICER,  CITY  OF  ANCHORAGE  (via                                                                    
teleconference),  replied that  the  $200  million would  be                                                                    
committed funds  for the  cargo dock  1 and  2 replacements.                                                                    
The   funds  would   be  committed   to  the   $1.1  billion                                                                    
replacement. The funds would not go to a particular item.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Rasmussen  stated  the committee  had  heard                                                                    
from   several  other   local   governments.  She   believed                                                                    
Anchorage had  contributed funding  toward the  project. She                                                                    
asked for the figure.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Risvold replied  that  the  municipality currently  had                                                                    
$222  million  pf  funds  on   hand.  The  municipality  had                                                                    
requested state funding  in the amount of  $600 million. The                                                                    
port  was seeking  $281 million  in federal  funds. Anything                                                                    
short of the  State of Alaska request would be  made up with                                                                    
Port of Alaska revenue bonds.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Ortiz  asked  if   the  city  had  submitted  an                                                                    
application  for  Infrastructure  Investment  and  Jobs  Act                                                                    
(IIJA) funds for the project.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Risvold  answered  that the  plan  finance  included  a                                                                    
variety  of  fund   sources  including  Port  Infrastructure                                                                    
Development  Grants  and RAISE  grants  in  the $25  million                                                                    
range. The port  would also apply for IIJA funds  as long as                                                                    
it qualified.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz asked if the  port planned to apply for the                                                                    
IIJA funds but had not yet done so.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Risvold  answered  affirmatively. He  did  not  believe                                                                    
applications were available yet.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson asked  for  verification that  the                                                                    
$281 million in federal funds was spread over many years.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Risvold  answered  that  the   port  had  a  reasonable                                                                    
expectation that the  $281 million could be  spread out over                                                                    
more than one year.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson wondered how many years.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Risvold answered that the  port needed to have committed                                                                    
funds  in place  by  2025 totaling  $1.1  billion. The  port                                                                    
would  continue   to  pursue  federal  funding   until  that                                                                    
timeframe  and   the  municipal   assembly  would   have  to                                                                    
authorize revenue  bonds if  the $1.1  billion had  not been                                                                    
achieved.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:41:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUZI  PEARSON,  EXECUTIVE  DIRECTOR, ABUSED  WOMENS  AID  IN                                                                    
CRISIS,  requested  $347,000  for   the  AWAIC  shelter  and                                                                    
transitional  living   renovations  project.   She  provided                                                                    
detail  on the  project that  would allow  AWAIC to  address                                                                    
multiple issues in all of  the facilities. She relayed there                                                                    
were  additional  fund sources  being  used  to support  the                                                                    
project. She thanked the committee.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
STEVE  WILLIAMS,  ALASKA   MENTAL  HEALTH  TRUST  AUTHORITY,                                                                    
JUNEAU, spoke  in support of  $8 million to stand  up crisis                                                                    
stabilization  services in  Anchorage.  The increment  would                                                                    
enable  Alaska   to  stand  up  the   first  23-hour  crisis                                                                    
stabilization facility  in the  state. He elaborated  on the                                                                    
benefits of the project. He  testified in support of funding                                                                    
for the  Careline, which was  the first response  to someone                                                                    
in a behavioral health crisis.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  thought he had seen  the number $9                                                                    
million for the center.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Williams  believed the increment  was $8 million  but he                                                                    
was not positive.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  asked where the facility  site was                                                                    
located.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Williams believed  it was  the  old Alaska  Psychiatric                                                                    
Institute (API) facility off of Piper.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:45:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TOM CHARD,  ALASKA BEHAVIORAL HEALTH  ASSOCIATION, FAIRBANKS                                                                    
(via teleconference),  requested an addition of  $11 million                                                                    
for behavioral  health treatment  capacity. He spoke  to the                                                                    
dramatic  increase in  need during  COVID.  He reviewed  the                                                                    
benefits  of   the  treatment   services.  He   spoke  about                                                                    
legislation  that had  authorized the  use of  1115 Medicaid                                                                    
waivers for  behavioral health and substance  abuse. Capital                                                                    
funding would  help recruit  and retain  counselors, upgrade                                                                    
electronic  health  systems,  and   other.  He  thanked  the                                                                    
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:47:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARIYA   LOVISHCHUK,    THE   GLORY   HALL,    JUNEAU   (via                                                                    
teleconference), testified  in support  for funding  for the                                                                    
United Human  Services on Teal  Street Center.  She provided                                                                    
detail  on  the  center.  She stated  that  collocating  the                                                                    
services would  move the needle on  homelessness. She stated                                                                    
that homelessness  was a problem  and difficulty  getting to                                                                    
appropriate  resources  was  a problem.  The  project  would                                                                    
improve service delivery  and was in the right  place at the                                                                    
right time. She thanked the committee.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:48:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRUCE BUSTAMANTE,  ANCHORAGE CHAMBER OF  COMMERCE, ANCHORAGE                                                                    
(via  teleconference),  spoke  to  the  mission  to  support                                                                    
growth  and success  for members  and economic  strength and                                                                    
resiliency  for Anchorage.  He spoke  in support  of funding                                                                    
for  the  Port  of  Alaska.  The  current  port  was  beyond                                                                    
disrepair.  The  port  was  the   highest  priority  of  the                                                                    
Anchorage Chamber  of Commerce.  He spoke  to the  assets of                                                                    
the  port.   He  cited  a   study  by  the   McDowell  Group                                                                    
highlighting  the port's  critical  nature.  He supported  a                                                                    
$200 million appropriation and $200 million match.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:51:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JERRY JENKINS,  SELF, ANCHORAGE (via  teleconference), asked                                                                    
for  additional  funding  for  behavioral  health  treatment                                                                    
capacity.   He  thanked   the  committee   for  taking   his                                                                    
testimony.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:52:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MORIA SMITH,  SELF, ANCHORAGE (via  teleconference), thanked                                                                    
the committee  for including $100  million for  school major                                                                    
maintenance. She  thanked the  committee for  funding school                                                                    
bond debt reimbursement in the  operating budget. She stated                                                                    
that  her  son's  elementary  school was  in  sore  need  of                                                                    
improvements. She thanked the committee.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:53:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JULIA  LUEY,  VOA  ALASKA, ANCHORAGE  (via  teleconference),                                                                    
provided   information  about   VOA  Alaska   that  provided                                                                    
therapeutic  services  to  youths and  their  families.  She                                                                    
listed   attributes  of   the  program.   She  thanked   the                                                                    
legislature  for including  $960,000 for  VOA's school-based                                                                    
mental health program. She  requested support for behavioral                                                                    
health  treatment   capacity.  She  stated  that   with  the                                                                    
Medicaid 1115  transformation, providers could not  stand up                                                                    
new service  lines without funds. She  highlighted the youth                                                                    
mental  health   crisis  impacting  youth  in   Alaska.  She                                                                    
discussed  the  large  increase in  calls  and  in  suicidal                                                                    
inclination.  She provided  further  detail.  She urged  the                                                                    
committee to prioritize youth mental health.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Merrick  remarked that  she  had  visited the  VOA                                                                    
facility and had been very impressed.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:56:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JESSICA   LEONARD,  SELF,   HOUSTON  (via   teleconference),                                                                    
requested the  addition of City of  Houston capital projects                                                                    
to the capital budget. She spoke  in support of funds of the                                                                    
local fire station and public  works facility. She supported                                                                    
pathways for the  local school, which had been  needed for a                                                                    
long  time. She  noted dangerous  traffic in  the area.  She                                                                    
spoke  in support  of funding  for  the Bear  Paw Park.  She                                                                    
provided detail. She thanked the committee.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick  asked who the senator  and representatives                                                                    
were for Houston.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Leonard did not know.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:59:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HALEY    JOHNSON,    ALASKA     TRAILS,    ANCHORAGE    (via                                                                    
teleconference), testified in support  of Alaska trails. She                                                                    
thanked  the legislature  for support  for  the Alaska  long                                                                    
trail in the past. She  supported funding for land and water                                                                    
conservation   fund,   recreational  trails   program,   fee                                                                    
stations  for  state  parks,  and  sanitation  and  deferred                                                                    
maintenance funds  for state parks. She  stressed that state                                                                    
managed  public  lands were  in  dire  need of  funding  for                                                                    
recreational  purposes.  She encouraged  additional  funding                                                                    
for public use cabins.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
6:01:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.  GENE  QUINN,  ALASKA  HEART  INSTITUTE,  ALASKA  HEALTH                                                                    
INFORMATION   EXCHANGE,   ANCHORAGE  (via   teleconference),                                                                    
shared  information about  his work  with the  Alaska Health                                                                    
Information Exchange.  He took  care of individuals  who had                                                                    
heart  attacks. He  did not  always have  patient's records.                                                                    
The Health  Information Exchange provided a  way to transfer                                                                    
records. He  noted there had  been a mistake in  the budget.                                                                    
The $6 million  had been removed in the  Senate because they                                                                    
thought there  was federal  COVID relief  funding available.                                                                    
There was not. He was asking  for the item to be included in                                                                    
the budget to  fund the Health Information  Exchange for the                                                                    
next two  years. He  stated the  federal government  and the                                                                    
state had put tens of  millions of dollars into creating the                                                                    
infrastructure.     He    appreciated     the    committee's                                                                    
consideration of  reinserting the item in  the budget, which                                                                    
was critical infrastructure for Alaska's healthcare system.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson had heard  about the funding source                                                                    
problem. He hoped the issue could be fixed.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Merrick  asked  if  Dr.  Quinn  was  working  with                                                                    
someone in  the Senate to  offer an amendment on  the Senate                                                                    
floor.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Quinn  referenced lobbyists  for the  Health Information                                                                    
Exchange.  He   relayed  there  were   multiple  individuals                                                                    
working  on the  issue  including the  commissioner and  Dr.                                                                    
Anne  Zink. He  was  happy to  reach out  to  someone if  he                                                                    
needed to.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Rasmussen  suggested  the  issue  should  be                                                                    
brought to Senator Mia Costello's attention as well.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
6:05:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DONNA   ADERHOLD,    HOMER   CITY   COUNCIL,    HOMER   (via                                                                    
teleconference),  appreciated  the  $750,000 for  a  general                                                                    
investigation study for the  harbor's large vessel expansion                                                                    
project. The  funds would match  funds the city  had already                                                                    
set  aside  in  addition  to federal  funds.  The  city  had                                                                    
outgrown  its current  harbor. She  thanked the  legislature                                                                    
for including  full funding for  the municipal  harbor grant                                                                    
program. She spoke to the benefits of the program.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
6:07:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ED  HENDRICKSON, ANCHORAGE  CHAMBER  OF COMMERCE,  ANCHORAGE                                                                    
(via  teleconference), testified  in support  of the  growth                                                                    
and support  of business. He  supported the Port  of Alaska.                                                                    
He detailed  that the  current port had  reached the  end of                                                                    
its life  and had experienced severe  corrosion. He stressed                                                                    
the  need  for  urgency.   He  supported  the  $200  million                                                                    
included  in  HB 283.  He  stated  that the  port  supported                                                                    
military operations  in Alaska, the Arctic,  and the Pacific                                                                    
Rim.  He   stressed  the  importance   could  not   be  over                                                                    
emphasized. He stated  failure to act was not  an option. He                                                                    
thanked the committee for its support.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
6:09:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
POLLYBETH  ODOM, SELF,  MAT-SU VALLEY  (via teleconference),                                                                    
asked  for support  for  additional  funding for  behavioral                                                                    
health treatment  capacity. She  had seen an  increased need                                                                    
for  services  and  less  money  for  services  needed.  She                                                                    
requested support for AWAIC and the Port of Alaska.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Rasmussen thanked  Ms. Odom  for calling  in                                                                    
support of the port.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
6:11:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CARL  WEISNER,  NORTHWEST   ARCTIC  BOROUGH,  KOTZEBUE  (via                                                                    
teleconference),  testified in  support  of  a $1.5  million                                                                    
request for a  public safety facilities for  the villages of                                                                    
the  Northwest  Arctic  Borough to  store  firefighting  and                                                                    
search  and rescue  equipment in  order  for communities  to                                                                    
have access to  the equipment when needed.  He stressed that                                                                    
outdoor temperatures  made things difficult. He  shared four                                                                    
members of  a family had  lost their  lives in a  house fire                                                                    
the  previous month.  He elaborated  that the  equipment the                                                                    
community had  been attempting  to use  had been  frozen. He                                                                    
thanked the committee.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
6:12:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHRIS   MANCULICH,   SELF,  MAT-SU   (via   teleconference),                                                                    
testified in support  of funding for the Port  of Alaska. He                                                                    
stated  that  a catastrophic  failure  of  the current  port                                                                    
would  cost  the  lives  of   longshoremen  would  be  lost.                                                                    
Additionally,  an  even  would   impact  food  security.  He                                                                    
supported any money they could get immediately.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Rasmussen  asked if the $25  million proposed                                                                    
in the Senate would be sufficient to meet the needs.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Manculich answered  that he  thought the  increment was                                                                    
$200 million.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Rasmussen clarified  that the  House version                                                                    
included $200 million with a  $200 million match whereas the                                                                    
Senate  version  included $25  million  with  a $25  million                                                                    
match.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Manculich  answered that $25 million  was not sufficient                                                                    
when talking  about a $1.2  billion project.  He highlighted                                                                    
longshoremen  had worked  at the  port  during the  pandemic                                                                    
with  no plumbing  because  it had  been  frozen. He  stated                                                                    
there had  been a  lot of deferment  waiting for  funds that                                                                    
were not there. Without  complete funding, the project would                                                                    
still be in limbo.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
6:15:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CARTER COLE,  CITY OF HOUSTON  COUNCIL MEMBER,  HOUSTON (via                                                                    
teleconference), thanked  the committee for  the opportunity                                                                    
to testify. He was in  support of funding highlighted by the                                                                    
Houston  mayor  earlier  in  the  meeting.  He  supported  a                                                                    
project related to  natural gas in the  community. He shared                                                                    
that  the  project  plan  had   originally  been  driven  by                                                                    
residents,  but there  was no  funding mechanism  within the                                                                    
city  to  help them.  He  worked  with the  third-party  gas                                                                    
supplier  have  gas  costs as  reasonable  as  possible.  He                                                                    
remarked  it  was rare  to  find  unanimous consent  by  the                                                                    
public. The projects were well-supported.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
6:17:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUZANNE   LAFRANCE,  ANCHORAGE   ASSEMBLY,  ANCHORAGE   (via                                                                    
teleconference), spoke  in support  of funding for  the Port                                                                    
of Alaska. She  discussed that rebuilding the  port had been                                                                    
an ongoing priority for the  assembly and of the current and                                                                    
prior  administrations. She  supported a  request to  assist                                                                    
with  repair,  design,  and  modernization.  She  asked  for                                                                    
continued support for the port.  She listed stakeholders who                                                                    
were united around  the plan. She shared  that an investment                                                                    
would help in the pursuit  of federal funds and would reduce                                                                    
the  amount  borne by  most  Alaskans  through tariffs.  She                                                                    
thanked the committee.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
6:19:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KATIE  BETHARD,  SEAWOLF  HOCKEY  ALLIANCE,  ANCHORAGE  (via                                                                    
teleconference), spoke in favor  of $340,000 for upgrades to                                                                    
the  UAA sports  center.  She shared  information about  the                                                                    
volunteer   alliance.  She   stated   that  previously   the                                                                    
organization  had raised  over  $3  million through  private                                                                    
donations  during  COVID  to   save  the  hockey  team  from                                                                    
elimination.  The organization  was  asking  for some  state                                                                    
funding to make improvements to  keep spectators and the fan                                                                    
base safe.  The current  bleacher situation was  unsafe. The                                                                    
money  would  go toward  the  installation  of new  bleacher                                                                    
seating and a  jumbotron. She thanked the  committee for its                                                                    
time.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
6:22:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GEORGIANA PAGE, HEALTH  INFORMATION EXCHANGE, ANCHORAGE (via                                                                    
teleconference), spoke in support  of funding for the Health                                                                    
Information  Exchange.   She  provided  details   about  the                                                                    
exchange and  its benefits.  She stated that  a loss  of the                                                                    
exchange would be  a major setback and would  place an undue                                                                    
burden  on public  health employees  and  lead to  reporting                                                                    
delays.  She stated  that the  exchange had  played a  vital                                                                    
role in  COVID test results reporting.  She provided further                                                                    
detail about the  operations of the exchange.  She asked the                                                                    
committee to consider the funding.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
6:24:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CARLIN  EVANOFF,   SELF,  ANCHORAGE   (via  teleconference),                                                                    
testified  in support  of the  Health Information  Exchange.                                                                    
The  exchange provided  point of  care access.  The exchange                                                                    
provided  care  coordination  and other  serving  individual                                                                    
Alaskans  and reducing  the overall  cost  of healthcare  in                                                                    
Alaska. The  secure storage of  health data would  allow for                                                                    
analysis  of  healthcare  gaps,   needs  for  services,  and                                                                    
allocation of  healthcare resources to those  needing it the                                                                    
most.  She requested  support for  the  exchange to  support                                                                    
individuals, public health, and pandemic management.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
6:26:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STEVE  NERLAND,  MIRACLE  LEGION  BASEBALL,  ANCHORAGE  (via                                                                    
teleconference), spoke in support  of a $200,000 request for                                                                    
Miracle  Legion Baseball.  He shared  information about  the                                                                    
legion. There  was seasonal maintenance and  the legion paid                                                                    
umpires. There was no building  for the organization, and it                                                                    
had low operational cost. The  funds would go toward working                                                                    
with matching grants from  private organizations for various                                                                    
fields statewide. He thanked the committee.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
6:29:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NORIA   CLARK,   SELF,   ANCHORAGE   (via   teleconference),                                                                    
testified  in support  of the  Port of  Alaska. She  thanked                                                                    
Representative  Rasmussen in  regard to  the Sand  Lake Road                                                                    
study. She  remarked on the  lights on Sand Lake.  She noted                                                                    
there  were  safety issues  on  the  road. She  thought  the                                                                    
assembly needed  to stop wasting the  community's money. She                                                                    
appreciated  the   state  stepping   in.  She   thanked  the                                                                    
committee for its hard work.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
6:31:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TOM ATKINSON, CITY MANAGER, CITY  OF KOTZEBUE, KOTZEBUE (via                                                                    
teleconference), spoke  in support of the  Cape Blossom Port                                                                    
and road.  He shared that the  city had been working  on the                                                                    
port  for  many  years  with  other  regional  stakeholders.                                                                    
Kotzebue was  the gateway to  11 villages in the  region and                                                                    
represented about 10,000 residences.  The project would help                                                                    
reduce the cost of goods  in the region. He highlighted that                                                                    
many  residents  paid prices  that  were  up to  61  percent                                                                    
higher than  Anchorage. He relayed  it would be  an economic                                                                    
driver for the region. He  provided detail about the current                                                                    
status of the project. He spoke  about an 11.5 mile road out                                                                    
to the port site. Phase 2 of  the road would cost was also a                                                                    
Department of Transportation  and Public Facilities project.                                                                    
The  community had  received federal  infrastructure funding                                                                    
in the amount  of $27.7 million. The estimates  for the road                                                                    
were  between   $40  million  to  $50   million,  leaving  a                                                                    
shortfall of  $13 or so  million. The community  had applied                                                                    
for a federal RAISE grant  in addition to another grant. The                                                                    
port  would be  the only  one  above the  Arctic Circle.  He                                                                    
hoped the committee would consider support for the project.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
6:35:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JUNE   ROGERS,  FAIRBANKS   CITY  COUNCIL,   FAIRBANKS  (via                                                                    
teleconference), testified  in support of funding  for a law                                                                    
enforcement  range   and  training  facility.   The  current                                                                    
facility was located on  the Fairbanks International Airport                                                                    
property  and the  rules made  basic training  difficult. In                                                                    
2018 law enforcement agencies were  notified the range would                                                                    
be  shut down.  There was  no other  firearm range  training                                                                    
facility.  A new  facility would  serve every  local, state,                                                                    
and  federal law  enforcement agency  in Interior  Alaska. A                                                                    
professional   training  environment   was  essential.   She                                                                    
thanked the committee.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Merrick  asked  if the  amount  requested  was  $6                                                                    
million.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Rogers answered  in the  affirmative. The  estimate for                                                                    
the range was  $16 million and there was  an additional $225                                                                    
in a  Department of Environmental Conservation  grant to the                                                                    
Alaska  Peace Officers  Association  for the  design of  the                                                                    
facility.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick  asked if  it would  be helpful  to receive                                                                    
half of the $6 million.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rogers  answered that everything was  helpful. She added                                                                    
that the City  of North Pole was looking  at the possibility                                                                    
of  donating  land.  She  stated  that  looking  at  working                                                                    
together to move forward was incredibly helpful.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
6:38:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICTORIA  KILDAL,  KODIAK  AREA NATIVE  ASSOCIATION,  KODIAK                                                                    
(via teleconference),  asked for additional  funding support                                                                    
for behavioral  health treatment  capacity. She  thanked the                                                                    
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
6:39:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOANN RIESELBACH,  JUNEAU YOUTH SERVICES (JYS),  JUNEAU (via                                                                    
teleconference),  requested   $11  million   for  behavioral                                                                    
health treatment capacity within  the state. She spoke about                                                                    
the  services  JYS provided  to  young  people. The  program                                                                    
provided   outpatient   services  and   facility   services.                                                                    
Additional funds  would enable the organization  to increase                                                                    
its capacity.  She elaborated that  the funding  would allow                                                                    
providers to  better focus on  youth crises. The  absence of                                                                    
funding hampered the  ability to respond to  the crisis. She                                                                    
spoke  to  the  need  for funding  for  long-term  strategic                                                                    
planning. She thanked the committee.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
6:41:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRENT  FISHER,  SELF,  JUNEAU (via  teleconference),  shared                                                                    
that he worked for JYS.  He asked for support for behavioral                                                                    
health treatment capacity. He thanked the committee.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
6:42:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TIM    POTTER,    ANCHORAGE     SKATES,    ANCHORAGE    (via                                                                    
teleconference), underscored the  need for behavioral health                                                                    
services  and  facilities  to   diagnose,  treat,  and  make                                                                    
headway  with the  local population.  He strongly  supported                                                                    
funding  for the  Port of  Alaska. He  stressed that  if the                                                                    
current port  failed, the whole  state would be  in trouble.                                                                    
He  highlighted  a  request of  $650,000  for  a  year-round                                                                    
warming facility  chalet for Anchorage  Skates at  the Cuddy                                                                    
Family  Midtown Park  in Anchorage.  He elaborated  that the                                                                    
park was used  by residents and tourists. He had  been in an                                                                    
office  located directly  next to  the park.  He stated  the                                                                    
park was a huge benefit  for mental health. The chalet would                                                                    
allow  for increased  user safety  and  would help  families                                                                    
with small kids. He thanked the committee for its time.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Josephson  thanked   Mr.  Potter   for  his                                                                    
testimony.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
6:46:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RICHARD TULUK, CITY OF  CHEVAK, CHEVAK (via teleconference),                                                                    
testified in support of airport  improvement funding for the                                                                    
Chevak airport. He  stated the funding was  critical for the                                                                    
city. Additionally,  Chevak was  designated as a  postal hub                                                                    
serving six  other communities. He  spoke to  the importance                                                                    
of addressing  the needs of  supplies and goods  coming into                                                                    
the  airport  to meet  the  needs  of economic  success  for                                                                    
communities.  He discussed  it  would  improve services  for                                                                    
villages  around Bethel.  He stated  that airline  companies                                                                    
would benefit  from increased service, and  it would benefit                                                                    
the community.  The airport would most  importantly help the                                                                    
City  of  Chevak  when  it  built  a  hotel  to  accommodate                                                                    
visitors from  an ecotourism program.  It would  also enable                                                                    
residents  to  develop   small  business  opportunities.  He                                                                    
thanked the committee.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
6:49:28 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
6:54:22 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick noted the meeting would adjourn.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
HB  283  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
7:20:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 7:20 p.m.